Jude 2

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Jinjer

Carbon auctions are a good idea. They put the laws of economics into play to create incentives for reducing polutants. Obama's comment was specific to a coal company startup, not to established coal companies or to the industry as a whole. The idea is to create incentives for new energy companies to provide alternative clean energies. That's good, and it's one of the several Obama policies I support. McCain also supports carbon auctions.

I have zero hearing regarding alternative anything from a man who supports the "right" to kill an unborn child.

soulsearcher wrote:I have zero hearing regarding alternative anything from a man who supports the "right" to kill an unborn child.

you know it is kinda insane to support alternative energy with the premise of clean air , saving the environment etc. and support abortion at the same time.
How could the environment take more importance then a human life that is defenseless and innocent

one love wrote:

soulsearcher wrote:I have zero hearing regarding alternative anything from a man who supports the "right" to kill an unborn child.

you know it is kinda insane to support alternative energy with the premise of clean air , saving the environment etc. and support abortion at the same time.
How could the environment take more importance then a human life that is defenseless and innocent

If he gets elected we have the choice to reduce his every action and thought down to abortion and be as obstructionist as we can against his policies, or we can take each policy on its own terms and support it or not on its own merits for the good of our country in those areas. I knew people who refused to give the Bush administration credit for its accomplishments in North Korea because of his failure in Iraq. They wouldn't give him credit for anything because through their lens everything was about Iraq. I think that is a mistake.

I do not understand Barack Obama when it comes to his support for not only abortion but also allowing children who survive abortion to die. It is most highly disturbing to me. If he gets elected, though, I am not going to spend the next four or eight years blind to every other of his policies that may be good for our country.

Many Republicans didn't and don't care that our bombs kill fetuses and children. If there is a perceived security threat, or even just a national feeling of patriotism to protect, that "collateral damage" is justified (i.e., those collateral unborn children--too bad for them.) Likewise with most Democrats, they perceive their agenda of irresponsible sex and throw-away life a matter of a woman's right to choose. In my book, it's not the woman's body; it's the fetus's body. A woman has a right to her body not having sex, but she shouldn't have a right to kill the man her body had sex with or the child she conceived with it.

But there is a warping of mind that happens when Republicans and Democrats frame the bombing, maiming, and aborting of children around their self-interested concerns. Humans have an amazingly scary capacity to justify the needless taking and maiming of human life when it is framed just right to them. That goes for Obama; it goes for me; it goes for you. I could just kill over it! But there wouldn't be many Republicans or Democrats left if I did. And I hope I never let my anger over our self-gratifying murders so debilitate me that I choose to obstruct every good policy a Republican or Democrat ever puts on the table.

Coal people are going crazy today, could this help McCain. I sure hope so.

KB

Tim. I fully understand what you have said. I take great offense to those who view President Bush as a total failure. I wouldn't vote democrate for that very reason any more than I would have voted republican because they bashed every thing Clinton did.

Our tendency as Americans is always to "throw the baby out with the bath water". I don't like that attituce either.

I have to say though, that I personally can't see more than 10% of Obama's policies being anywhere good for this country. I believe he is what he says he is.....in his words....and that scares the crap out of me. His policies will not be his but of those who influence him, groomed him. and own him.

John scares me in some ways, but I agree with his policies more. Taxation is NOT answer to any real issue. I could talk for days about that.

Barack's positions...my support/opposition

Abortion Rights: oppose
Opposition to Defense of Marriage Act: oppose
Affirmative Action: oppose
"economic justice" (redistribution practices): oppose
increasing fed spending: oppose
nationalized healthcare: oppose
fed. control of education: oppose
no school vouchers: oppose
promoting renewable energy: support
against drilling off-shore: oppose
global warming: oppose
"sin is being out of alignment with your values": oppose
talking with dictators w/o preconditions: oppose
free trade: not really sure what he thinks (not that I'm sure about the rest)
ethics reform: support
restricting 2nd ammendment: oppose
sanctuary cities: oppose
amnesty: oppose
minimizing border security: oppose
cut and run in Iraq: oppose
more troops in afganistan: support
teaching children about homosexuality: oppose
25% cut in defense: oppose
no privatization of social security: oppose
"post-modern" view of constitution: oppose
judges that "have emotions and empathy" rather than judging according to the law: oppose
higher taxes on $250,000...er...$150,000...er...$120,000...: oppose

*note: I reserve the right to flipflop on any of these positions...

3 out of 27 I support...hmm.

Jinjer -- it doesn't matter what Obama's position is on any given issue. It doesn't matter at all in an election that is all about style over substance.

You could put a live video feed on every network of BHO french-kissing the Mayor of San Francisco at their wedding presided over by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, standing on a pile of aborted fetuses wrapped in the ashes of the burned U.S. Constitution and the supporters of BHO would not blink.

The fat lady is warming up... the show must go on.

PG, you have called it as it is, friend. Nothing (as in NO THING) that could be revealed at this point in time is going to matter to the BHO crowd.