Jude 2

My dad and I just had an very long talk.

As of right now one of us is very un-sure who they are voting for.

We were talking the good vs bad on both party's

One thing my dad ask me about was somthing I have not herd at all, so I am going to ask you smart people about it.

has obama said he would no longer support Israel?

Not claiming to be smart, but I haven't heard anything like that. Obama's site has a pdf outlining his position:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/IsraelFactSheet.pdf
Hits the usual points:
Strong partnership, prevent Iran from nukes, Israel's right to self defense, foreign aid, two state solution, etc. Seems general American policy.

Penny wrote:My dad and I just had an very long talk.

As of right now one of us is very un-sure who they are voting for.

We were talking the good vs bad on both party's

One thing my dad ask me about was somthing I have not herd at all, so I am going to ask you smart people about it.

has obama said he would no longer support Israel?

Jesse Jackson inferred recently that Obama would not be as warm toward Israel as the current administration. I'm not sure if there is documented proof to back this up.

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crispfinagin wrote:Not claiming to be smart, but I haven't heard anything like that. Obama's site has a pdf outlining his position:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/IsraelFactSheet.pdf
Hits the usual points:
Strong partnership, prevent Iran from nukes, Israel's right to self defense, foreign aid, two state solution, etc. Seems general American policy.

thank you for that..

He has not said that he would not support Israel but he has been around those that do not. I think IMHO our support for Israel will decline as time goes on if he is president.
I wont use it as a scare tactic because it is just my opinion based upon his remarks and company he has kept.

The bigger question, for me, is what about Obama makes him even worthyof a moments consideration??

Pastor Gary wrote:The bigger question, for me, is what about Obama makes him even worthyof a moments consideration??

PG have you not been listening the past year? where have you been? He is bringing change Now dont ask details because he dont even have that

In whatever happens, we as believers can have PEACE in knowing that God preserves us as His people.

It will be no cake walk for whoever inherits the job so we should pray for that person.

I pray PEACE over our nation for tomorrow and the days following as well, as there will be many people very upset and angry on either side, no matter which candidate wins.

one love wrote:

Pastor Gary wrote:The bigger question, for me, is what about Obama makes him even worthyof a moments consideration??

PG have you not been listening the past year? where have you been? He is bringing change Now dont ask details because he dont even have that

I am honestly trying to understand how anyone can be undecided with less than 24 hours left, when the choices are between McCain and Obama. The two men couldn't be further apart in experience, philosophy, and plans for the future of America.

Pastor Gary wrote:I am honestly trying to understand how anyone can be undecided with less than 24 hours left, when the choices are between McCain and Obama. The two men couldn't be further apart in experience, philosophy, and plans for the future of America.

It's that "epiphany" at work mentioned by Obama. I hope I don't see it.

Pastor Gary wrote:

one love wrote:

Pastor Gary wrote:The bigger question, for me, is what about Obama makes him even worthyof a moments consideration??

PG have you not been listening the past year? where have you been? He is bringing change Now dont ask details because he dont even have that

I am honestly trying to understand how anyone can be undecided with less than 24 hours left, when the choices are between McCain and Obama. The two men couldn't be further apart in experience, philosophy, and plans for the future of America.

I knew I was going to like you PG... Preach it my Brotha. Go McCain. Sorry I know this is not a political site. But I want to go on the record for saying I'm voting for McCain tomorrow. NoBama

Penny, unborn children, our troops in Iraq, and your kids need for you to cast your vote for their future tomorrow. Cast that vote for John McCain and help keep NC red.

Obama said him and Biden couldn't screw things up any worse than Bush. That's enough for anyone to run away from him.

He is against Israel. Cast your vote for McCain and then read BO's book and see how he supports the Arab nations.

PS You may be against the war in Iraq and that's fine but don't let those men and women their be put in any worse danger than they already are.

Pastor Gary wrote:The bigger question, for me, is what about Obama makes him even worthyof a moments consideration??

I agree whole heartedly with this questions....

I have been asking a young man about this for the past week. I asked him to give me 5 things that Obama was going to do for the country that was not welfare.

Still waiting...

Penny to answer your question about Obama and Israel. I do not believe him to be a true strong allie with Israel. You have heard the saying

Where there is smoke usually there is fire.

There are way way too many questions about Obama and his feelings cncerning Israel and Middle east. It was just last week the the article in the LA Times questioned Obama on this very issue. supposedly there is a video of Obama at a banquet honoring PLO supporters here in USA.


I voted early. I voted for McCain and then chose the Straight Republican box. I am a registerd Independent and have always been so. I did not consider any democratic canidates because they presented Obama as the best of the best democrats to run for president.

And one more thing. Hilary would have been a better canidate because at least you know where she is coming from. Obama we have no Idea.


I have said it before.
The More I learned about Obama , I began to see just how much we
DO NOT KNOW about him.

AS one guy said on Fox last night.

He is a Charlotton (sp) to the core.

John McCain spent more time for our country as a POW than Obama has a US senator.

Check these out.

http://mideast.blogs.time.com/2008/11/0 ... ove-obama/

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28 ... -activist/

I am honestly trying to understand how anyone can be undecided with less than 24 hours left, when the choices are between McCain and Obama. The two men couldn't be further apart in experience, philosophy, and plans for the future of America.
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B/C my dad has allways been a dem- has always voted straight ticket. This is the first year EVER he is thinking of not doing so.

all things below was in our talk yesterday

unborn children,

yes obama supports the killing of the little ones before they are born, but as of right now so dose Bush,He has not closed any clinic's

our troops in Iraq,

Obama plans to bring the men and women home.

It hard telling what will happen today.

My kids both had mock elections Lindsey told me why even vote you know who is going to win, so why even do it. So I had to explain to her how YOUR one vote maters so much.

Here is the link to the New York Post regarding what Jesse Jackson said about Israel. I think its rather disturbing.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/po ... htm?page=0