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Seek the Lord
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:08 pm
by Jennifer Smith
Soulsearcher posted a link to Psalm 37:23-40 which is a verse I had also posted last night. I wanted to add this verse, but I didn't have time to look it up last night:
Psalm 34:9-10
Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints!
There is no want to those who fear Him.
The young lions do lack and suffer hunger;
But those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing.
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:15 pm
by Mike Vande
Define "good", and remember it's not a synonym for comfort and wealth to God...
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:26 pm
by Jennifer Smith
God sent ravens to feed Elijah, multiplied flour and oil to feed both him and the widow who extended her hand to him, in the middle of a famine. We must believe the best and remember what God has done in our own lives, we must not be like the disciples or the Israelites in the desert, who at times suffered from short-term memory loss...

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:31 pm
by Mike Vande
Jennifer, are you aware that ravens are scavengers, and the food they were bringing Elijah was not grade AA? He ate, yeah, but it was not a steak dinner every night. He was eating garbage to survive. Would that be good to you?
Re: Seek the Lord
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:33 pm
by Pastor Gary
Jennifer Smith wrote:Soulsearcher posted a link to Psalm 37:23-40 which is a verse I had also posted last night. I wanted to add this verse, but I didn't have time to look it up last night:
Psalm 34:9-10
Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints!
There is no want to those who fear Him.
The young lions do lack and suffer hunger;
But those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing.
Context is king...
Psalms are HYMNS, written by a songwriter (David) extolling the praises of God, and are not direct promises from God to His children.
Was the Catholic Priest Maximilian Kolbe able to claim that passage as an absolute promise when he was starved for three weeks in a Nazi Concentration Camp and eventually executed by lethal injection?
You simply can not pick and chose random passages from Psalms and Proverbs and construct doctrine from them.
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:43 pm
by Jennifer Smith
This is meant as a word of encouragement to those who are afraid.!
I know
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 2:50 pm
by Pastor Gary
Jennifer Smith wrote:This is meant as a word of encouragement to those who are afraid.!
I understand that... my comments were (again, context) in light of the recent posts suggesting that Christians never have to worry about suffering or loss.
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 3:30 pm
by jinjer
Yea, I think it was probably difficult for the Christians that were used by Nero as human torches to light his garden, to see that they were lacking no good thing. I know they loved God!
Jinjer
Hey Jen
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 6:14 pm
by Pastor Gary
Jennifer Smith wrote:Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
If it is defending the gospel against misuse...
Jennifer, do you really think anyone is objecting to encouraging, or are we objecting to what we perceive as unintentional scripture-twisting and proof-texting?

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 6:21 pm
by Jennifer Smith
I could not sustain without the hope of the Lord, and His strength and encouragement. We do not all fit the same mold, either. That is a good thing! Imagine a world full of one person, the same personality. He would have to be a perfect person, or there would be no helping him! I cannot be Gerald, for example, and neither should I try to be.
David encouraged himself in the Lord, and that is something important to do when the world is "changing" and things seem uncertain. We need to turn to God, remembering that He is our Source, and not to our own devices or our own strength which fail us. There are many people who need encouragement.
Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
Posted: November 4th, 2008, 6:22 pm
by Jennifer Smith
Pastor Gary, with the exception of the above post, which I felt needed some explanation, I posted the scriptures alone.
Posted: November 5th, 2008, 4:18 am
by one love
Well the bible says we can be healed but not everyone is or was. So does that diminish the scriptures that say we can be healed?
Is the word of God inspired or not? To say that some in concentration camps died and suffered somehow disproves or diminishes any of Gods word is out of context.
The bible lets us know that he would not put more on us then we can bare. What about those that suffer tremendously? Should we then say the bible was not literally meaning that?
I read the post just as a encouraging post!
Mike yes if I had nothing to eat and God sent Ravens to feed me I would be happy. One to know that God sent the ravens and two that I was fed when starving. Steak? No but neither was Manna and their complaining for meat was highly out of order. I believe God told them he would give them meat until it came out of their nostrils
Point being they came out of bondage and were hungry and God fed them with manna from heaven, many still complained because as you said " it certainly was not steak"
I understand your points in all of this but I think we should be thankful for what God supplies.
