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obama, Joyce Meyer, Td Jakes, COGOP...

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 5:23 pm
by one love
http://www.cogop.com/

I was looking for the HQ site and found this by accident....

Not meant in a negative, just was surprised.

Re: obama, Joyce Meyer, Td Jakes, COGOP...

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 7:02 pm
by Tim Elston
one love wrote:http://www.cogop.com/


COGOP England seems to like Obama.

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 7:09 pm
by paul
Hey, the man is covering all his bases....... :lol: :lol:

Surprise!

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 7:13 pm
by Pastor Gary
I am not the least bit surprised by non-white citizens of the UK being fans of Obama. One of my classmates at Fuller is a white Brit (Welsh, actually) and he told be back in February that almost everyone in England... everyone in EUROPE knew who Obama was, and there was massive public sentiment there to see him elected.

I am disappointed that the choice of ministries to be featured there revolves around people I would never recommend to anyone. :(

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 3:08 am
by Gerald Creasy
When COGOP begins to officially embrace the Jesus Only Modalism of TD JAkes and the Health Wealth and Prosperity Jesus-was-tormented-in-Hell Manure of Joyce Meyers I'm gone.

I've been warning y'all for years and no one has the backbone to stand up.

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 3:32 am
by MacUser
Now is a time to rethink everything.

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 6:21 am
by soulsearcher
:shock: :shock: :shock: I couldn't believe my eyes.

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 7:09 am
by one love
I admit I was shocked as well that is why I posted it, was curious if you all would be shocked. I cant believe they have Jakes and Meyer on there. I can understand Obama being in Europe like PG said....However I DON'T understand a Christian supporting anyone that is pro-abortion and saying " I would not want my daughter to ruin her life because of a MISTAKE" :shock: That is Obama's statement regarding abortion so before anyone says "he is not PRO abortion", he is.

Ahem

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 10:37 am
by Pastor Gary
Gerald Creasy wrote:I've been warning y'all for years and no one has the backbone to stand up.

I take offense at that statement. I have stuck my neck WAY out being vocal.

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 10:41 am
by Shellie
I've been warning y'all for years and no one has the backbone to stand up.


Gerald, you have not been the only one. Years ago, I raged for months about this very issue and these very people. I just got too busy to continue with it plus....I got tired of beating a dead horse. Those that hear you and agree with you aren't going to change. Those that don't agree with you aren't going to. It's like one that beateth against the air.

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 11:56 am
by Gerald Creasy
Pastor Gary wrote:I take offense at that statement. I have stuck my neck WAY out being vocal.


No offense intended. I am thankful and gratetful.

But you know COGOP in Canada hawking T D Jaked books, COGOP in England linking to Meyers and Jakes and COGOP officals paling up with and promoting WOF lunatics with the Azuza Street Celebration tells me that perhaps you and I are in the minority.

WOF has taken the field. It is part and parcel of Pentecostalism and has beaten any other idea in conjuction with an active ACTS type-Holy Spirit belief into submission with the steel club of greed.

And most are happy to have it so.

Pentecosalism is all but lost in the modern day. As COGOP abandons legalistic Holiness it begins to stink in WOF heresy like a vacuum.

Jakes and Meyers are held as standards. WHo cares what they teach? They're SUCCCESSFUL. (The only standard of Modern day Christianity. Not that Jesus died for you. Or just that Jesus paid the price. He suffered and died so I can be financially successful)

Jakes and Meyers are even touted at my local: "Just look at all these children here on Childrens day, Who knows, one of them could be the next T D Jakes, the next Joyce Meyers."



Shellie wrote:Gerald, you have not been the only one. Years ago, I raged for months about this very issue and these very people. I just got too busy to continue with it plus....I got tired of beating a dead horse. Those that hear you and agree with you aren't going to change. Those that don't agree with you aren't going to. It's like one that beateth against the air.


Then is scripture worthless?

Is truth null and void?

How far do you take that maxim (italicized above)?


A NOTE:

What does a vaccuum do?

It's sucks! <---censored

It does not "STINK" The censorship here is ludicrous.

I agree to an extent

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 12:02 pm
by Pastor Gary
Gerald Creasy wrote:But you know COGOP in Canada hawking T D Jaked books, COGOP in England linking to Meyers and Jakes and COGOP officals paling up with and promoting WOF lunatics with the Azuza Street Celebration tells me that perhaps you and I are in the minority.

WOF has taken the field. It is part and parcel of Pentecostalism and has beaten any other idea in conjuction with an active ACTS type-Holy Spirit belief into submission with the steel club of greed.

And most are happy to have it so.


I know, and it disturbs me greatly if I sit and stew over it. I have found it far more productive to light candles than to curse the darkness. I come here (and elsewhere) and shamelessly promote the streaming video of our services, the podcast archives and, locally, the cable rebroadcasts of our services not because I believe I am a particularly impressive speaker, or that we are the model church, but because the more of us who preach a Biblically sound, balanced Word are put forward, the more we push back against the cancerous scourge of heretical nonsense that has become identified with Pentecostalism on sites like this --> http://pentecostalplace.wordpress.com

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 12:05 pm
by one love
Gerald Creasy Wrote:
The only standard of Modern day Christianity. Not that Jesus died for you. Or just that Jesus paid the price. He suffered and died so I can be financially successful)



This is one of the most accurate statements regarding WOF that I have ever heard. That is what disturbs me, that people preach about MONEY more then anything and some thinks that is ok and will even post a scripture here to justify that :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Ok I am sure you get the point :twisted:

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 12:08 pm
by Paully_44
so cogop.com is the church in England? I wonder why they dont linkd off of the cogop.org site?