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What do you know about this?

Postby Martha » November 21st, 2008, 5:29 am

This is an article in the Huntsville Times today. I've never heard of this and just wondered if any of you are familiar with it. What are your thoughts?

http://www.al.com/religion/huntsvilleti ... xml&coll=1

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Postby dolfan » November 21st, 2008, 6:30 am

Wow! I never thought about the use of seeds in this way (not so much about end-times as just about a means of control and starvation). That's just scar-y!!

Now, my brain's ticking, and I'm wondering if there is any constitutional right to grow reproducing seed. Is the granting of a patent for non-reproducing seed a government action that violates a basic constitutional right? I don't know. But, I'd like to know more. And, I will. :twisted:
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Postby PastorDaniel » November 21st, 2008, 8:59 am

Truly Scary...not to mention..."who" studies agriculture anymore...or how many people do you know that could even grow a garden if they wanted...

I can't even keep plastic greenery alive... :shock: :lol:
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Postby Mister Ed » November 21st, 2008, 5:04 pm

Heirloom (reproducing) seeds are still very much alive and readily available. Here is an article and link for infomation;

http://www.vegparadise.com/heirloom.html

http://idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4573

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Postby Tim Elston » November 21st, 2008, 5:42 pm

Okay, a little pet peave here: I hate newspaper articles that make me read a story in the first one or two paragraphs before getting to the point!

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Postby Tracy » November 22nd, 2008, 1:55 am

Seeds and patents are a very scary thing right now. I spent a lot of time this winter and spring studying it. It is just a another piece in the puzzle of how incredibly precarious our food system is. Do some searches on Monsanto and seed patents, genetically modified foods, and the inability of hybrid seeds to rreproduce well. You will be horrified.


We use mainly heirloom seeds for our garden. They can be saved and regrown from year to year. And that with no threat of being dragged into court for theft.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/schmeiser.cfm

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Postby forestwalker » November 23rd, 2008, 5:20 pm

Tracy wrote:We use mainly heirloom seeds for our garden. They can be saved and regrown from year to year. And that with no threat of being dragged into court for theft.

Not yet, at least. Farmers abutting neighbors using patented seed are being forbidden from resowing their own seed on the assumption that some of it has been pollinated by their neighbors'.
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Postby dolfan » November 23rd, 2008, 6:55 pm

And, whether true or not I can't say, but I read that Iraq's new constitution requires Monsanto modified seed be the only seed used in agriculture.
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