one love wrote:Tim I see you keep getting upset because everyone will not bash Bush yet does not agree with Obama.
Oh, I see: to criticize Bush for a strategically motivated war and his hard-fought policy of indefinite detention of men without charge is to "bash Bush," but to call Obama's "Office of the President-Elect" seal the greatest form of arrogance is to "not agree with" him. Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday.
one love wrote:I have seen many here disagree with Bush yet we all dont fall for the conspiracy theories.
The fact is that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and we attacked it anyway. Cheney attempted to concoct a bogus link between Iraq and an al-Qaeda operative. He ordered the CIA to falsify a report to that effect. His assistant outed a CIA agent's identity as retribution for investigative reporting that found Iraq's link to Nigerian yellow cake to be fraudulent. Neoconservative doctrine, which was at inner circle of the Bush administration, held to democratizing the Middle East through military means. Paul O'Neill, Bush's Treasury Secretary, heard Rumsfeld tell Bush three days after 9/11 that they should attack Iraq, even though all evidence pointed to al-Qaeda, which had no connection to Iraq. There was absolutely no reason to attack Iraq in retaliation for 9/11, since Iraq had nothing to do with it. Just when we should have been focusing all of our efforts in Afghanistan the administration took a detour. Why? Because it saw the circumstances created in the aftermath of 9/11 as cover for enacting its pre-9/11 neoconservative Middle East policy of democratization by military means. There is absolutely no rationale for attacking Iraq after 9/11 other than a strategic one.
one love wrote:I appreciate Bush and what he has done for this nation.
I appreciate the good things he did. I don't appreciate the bad things he did.
one love wrote:To believe he fabricated a entire war and convinced most of congress and the senate and the UN is laughable to me.
The facts are that both Democrats and Republicans in Congress believed that Saddam had WMDs. So did most nations. Congress authorized the use of force against Iraq based on this belief. The UN had earlier authorized force, but did not authorize force after 9/11. The administration had ultimate responsibility for the decision to go to war, even after Congressional approval. The administration was involved in fabricating evidence to sell to the American people and the UN, and it thwarted diplomatic efforts to prevent war because it had no intentions of not going to war. It aimed to attack Iraq regardless of its feigned diplomacy and regardless of Iraq's disposition with regard to WMD. Its reason for attacking Iraq was neither WMD nor 9/11. It was to effect a geopolitical strategy, and facts and evidence and diplomacy were only impediments to effecting that strategy.
