Jude 2

Obama is getting pressure from his base saying he is already moving to the center. Also the anti-war movement are not happy saying he promised to bring troops home but has nobody in his cabinet that is anti-war.
I know people did not believe me when I said Obama would be forced to move somewhat to the center but he has and is not even in office yet.
Latest: He will not go ahead with "windfall profits tax" on oil etc. So I know not many are saying this but this is now 4 major issues he ran against that he has already changed, I agree with his NEW position and commend him for realizing that conservatism is better for the economy

chnages that WAS McCains position:

Not going to raise taxes on those making over 250k a year right now
NOT going to get rid of BUSH tax cuts
NOT going to be able to get the troops out as fast as he anticipated
NOT going ahead with windfall profits tax increase on oil companies

hmmmmmmmmmm

I told you he was watching Clinton's first 2 years in the white house and realizes he lost the senate and house because he was to aggressive with his Liberal agenda, I knew he would do this.

one love wrote:Obama is getting pressure from his base saying he is already moving to the center.

Yeah, all the screaming about Marxism around here was hysteria.

Tim Elston wrote:

one love wrote:Obama is getting pressure from his base saying he is already moving to the center.

Yeah, all the screaming about Marxism around here was hysteria.

Well I have said for a while that he would do this and would not push his agenda in the beginning because of the next congressional elections and his re-election. It only makes sense so I know what you are saying.

Sure.. we have nothing to fear. $$$$$

Obama Plans Largest Building Program Since 1950s
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... =worldwide

By Hans Nichols

Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama said he’ll make the “single largest new investment” in roads, bridges and public buildings since the Eisenhower Administration to lift the sagging economy and create jobs.

Obama, in his weekly radio speech today, said his plan to create or preserve 2.5 million jobs will also include making public buildings more energy efficient, repairing schools and modernizing health care with electronic medical records.

“We won’t just throw money at the problem,” he said. “We’ll measure progress by the reforms we make and the results we achieve -- by the jobs we create, by the energy we save, by whether America is more competitive in the world.”

why is nobody else bothered by his MAJOR flip flop with all this? The man slammed McCain by calling him Bush for year and now he is doing 4 major things that McCain and Bush stand for, matter of fact the basis of their economic stand. We are in a recession that he blamed Bush for, yet he is using his methods....

I DONT GET IT........

American's fell for the "CHANGE" but what we get is the "SAME"

I kept telling people that if he got elected this is exactly what would happen. I didn't think he had enough info on what exactly was going on. Once he started getting briefed and getting the hard facts he knew what he wanted to do could not happen.

Rahab wrote:I kept telling people that if he got elected this is exactly what would happen. I didn't think he had enough info on what exactly was going on. Once he started getting briefed and getting the hard facts he knew what he wanted to do could not happen.

I agree Rahab, It is a whole new world when you get the actual briefings. Anyone can think they know what to do but when you are actually in the seat and have all the info everything changes!

I am not an Obama supporter by any means, but why would anyone be up in arms for him doing what we all wanted him to do in the first place? That being, move to the middle?

Tim Elston wrote:

one love wrote:Obama is getting pressure from his base saying he is already moving to the center.

Yeah, all the screaming about Marxism around here was hysteria.

Hey Tim the words, deeds, and friends of Obama speak for them self.

And of course you of all people wouldn't have a problem with Obama moving to a more Centerist position would you?

Brian wrote:And of course you of all people wouldn't have a problem with Obama moving to a more Centerist position would you?

I think centrist is better than Marxist, yes.

Brian wrote:I am not an Obama supporter by any means, but why would anyone be up in arms for him doing what we all wanted him to do in the first place? That being, move to the middle?

Of course but if I was a obama supporter I would be upset that is what I mean why is nobody making a deal of this. He is doing exactly what he said was "more Bush"

I like what he is doing with this because it is conservative thinking
I will give him a fair shot and I like this. I can disagree with much of his politics but I am fair.

Make no mistake about it. Obama is, and will remain a socialist. However he is now faced with the realities of leading the nation. During the campaign he told his supporters what they wanted to hear. That is how he got elected, that's how anybody gets elected. However, once elected they face problems that speech writers cannot gloss over. It is then that their actions and their promises don't always match up. I think that he will still attempt to move us to a more socialistic government, it's just that it will be a slower process than he had promised.


TW

TW wrote:Make no mistake about it. Obama is, and will remain a socialist.

What is the definition of socialism? On what grounds do you call Obama a socialist?

Tim Elston wrote:

TW wrote:Make no mistake about it. Obama is, and will remain a socialist.

What is the definition of socialism? On what grounds do you call Obama a socialist?

An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government under some system ...

An "economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth