Jude 2

So if Bush did wrong it's ok for Barack to do so?

Those patriots were torturing for America, and I will not stand for patriots to be bad mouthed. This man has obviously drank some form of refreshing children's drink.

crispfin wrote:Those patriots were torturing for America, and I will not stand for patriots to be bad mouthed. This man has obviously drank some form of refreshing children's drink.

Hit 'em high, hit 'em low, cut 'em up and drown 'em on the water board, is what I say. Good for ole Rumsfeld for takin' it to 'em. 'merica used to have the guts for that, praise the Lord. Country first!

forestwalker wrote:...am I the only one who finds it absolutely crazy that anyone is this concerned about Obama’s answers on Blagojevich when we have just had a Senate report released that confirms that the highest levels of the current administration were implicated in and responsible for serious violations of the law?

Forestwalker, thanks for the link with the link to the Senate report. I just read it and found the details to be consistent with what I have read in the past. I notice that this was a joint effort between Carl Levin and John McCain.

I went through survival school in the U.S. Air Force and, as a part of that, the SERE training mentioned in the report. I went through interrogation resistance training and was subjected to extended stress positions, sleep deprivation, forced nudity and humiliation, being scrunched up in a small, dark box for twelve hours, and prison camp mistreatment. I broke out with shingles on my last day of the three week training as a result of the stress. Fortunately, they were not doing waterboarding at the time.

Kind of a revealing story about me is that during the group indoctrination sessions, during which a Communist would lecture us to get us to "see the light" about the evils of democracy, I was the only one in a group of thirty who broke the rule of not arguing with the lecturer.

I liked this blog on the question of whether waterboarding is torture: Is Waterboarding Torture? C'mon now...

On the other hand, I am revolted by the attitude and conduct of Blagojevich and consider his kind of betrayal of the public trust a serious threat to our democracy. Both torture and corruption undermine the foundations of a civil society, and I think it right to be angered at and outspoken against both.