Jude 2

Barack Obama...No real surprise there.

I can't believe my campaign failed!

Does it have him lecturing us in the Dirty Chicagoland / Gotham tone..
'DON'T WASTE YOUR QUESTION'...

With their excellent track record, you just have to expect they'll do the right thing. I mean:

Adolf Hitler (1938)
Josef Stalin (1939 & 1942)
Nikita Kruschev (1957)
The entire twenty-five and under crowd (1966)
Richard Nixon (1971 & 1972 jointly with Kissinger in '72)
Deng Xiaoping (1978 & 1985)
Ayatullah Khomeini (1979)
"Endangered Earth" (1988)
"You" (2006)
Vladimir Putin (2007)

And just how far does their pendullum swing?

American Fighting-Man (1950)
Hungarian Freedom Fighter (1956)
The Peacemakers (1993) - No Christians need apply. They were talking about Yasser Arafat, F.W. de Klerk, Nelson Mandela and Yitzak Rabin. Thank God Mr. Arafat helped bring peace to the Middle East!
The American Soldier (2003)

bibleguy wrote:With their excellent track record, you just have to expect they'll do the right thing. I mean:

Adolf Hitler (1938)
Josef Stalin (1939 & 1942)
Nikita Kruschev (1957)
The entire twenty-five and under crowd (1966)
Richard Nixon (1971 & 1972 jointly with Kissinger in '72)
Deng Xiaoping (1978 & 1985)
Ayatullah Khomeini (1979)
"Endangered Earth" (1988)
"You" (2006)
Vladimir Putin (2007)

And just how far does their pendullum swing?

American Fighting-Man (1950)
Hungarian Freedom Fighter (1956)
The Peacemakers (1993) - No Christians need apply. They were talking about Yasser Arafat, F.W. de Klerk, Nelson Mandela and Yitzak Rabin. Thank God Mr. Arafat helped bring peace to the Middle East!
The American Soldier (2003)

Obviously, they weren't looking for Good Guy of the Year. As I recall, they look for someone who has had great impact, for good or evil. Are you sure Mandela was not a Christian? How do you know? He was educated in a Weslyan boarding school. How about de Klerk? How do you know?

I saw the pic on Drudge and thought for a minute it was the Uncola guy from the 1970's/early 80's 7-Up commercials.

Gee let's think about this.

Every elected president since the advent of the Time Person of the Year issue has been chosen. Ford was the only president not on there, but neither was he elected.

It's more like a "newsmaker of the year" thing. Some of the people on there as stated above, definitely aren't good people.

Didn't mean to imply that the South African guys were or weren't Christian. Only that when TIME says Peacemakers, and CHRIST says Peacemakers, they are not using the same criteria.

(I must, obviously, acknowledge that not all Christians are peacemakers, all too often it is the opposite.)

I also understand that it is not necessarily "good guy of the year," however, words mean things, and those words almost command that response in the reader. You have to overcome your initial attitude towards the words "Man of the Year" when you hear "And the winner is -- Josef Stalin."

That being said, I don't think Time saw Arafat as the bad guy that he was.

True, "MOST IMPACTFUL FIGURE OF THE YEAR..." doesn't look as good on a magazine cover.

As far as Mandela, I am not sure of his profession of faith, but singing about killing whites is not something one might find in a hymnal. I hope that, as a peacemaker, he made his peace with God.

bibleguy wrote:Didn't mean to imply that the South African guys were or weren't Christian. Only that when TIME says Peacemakers, and CHRIST says Peacemakers, they are not using the same criteria.

(I must, obviously, acknowledge that not all Christians are peacemakers, all too often it is the opposite.)

I also understand that it is not necessarily "good guy of the year," however, words mean things, and those words almost command that response in the reader. You have to overcome your initial attitude towards the words "Man of the Year" when you hear "And the winner is -- Josef Stalin."

That being said, I don't think Time saw Arafat as the bad guy that he was.

True, "MOST IMPACTFUL FIGURE OF THE YEAR..." doesn't look as good on a magazine cover.

As far as Mandela, I am not sure of his profession of faith, but singing about killing whites is not something one might find in a hymnal. I hope that, as a peacemaker, he made his peace with God.

Bibleguy, thanks for a reasonable and substantive response. Awesome.

One point that came to mind is that John McCain sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." And I can't remember who, but someone on Jude 2 once said that we should just nuke the Arabs. You're right, that's hardly ethical by Christian standards, but unfortunately Christians and others sometimes get caught up in pedestrian bigotry. There, of course, is no excuse for it, and it should indeed be called out.

Agreed. I am no doubt guilty of it myself (I do love a good joke.)

While I think some "ethnic" humor is in good fun, I was absolutely HORRIFIED at some of the jokes I was getting via text message after the election. I was embarrassed, as the worst (and most violent in nature) came from Christian (even MENNONITE) friends!?!?!?

It just served as a reminder of the verse my mother drilled into my head growing up (while everyone else was learning John 3:16), "Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour" (Ecclesiastes 10:1).

EagerBeaver wrote:Every elected president since the advent of the Time Person of the Year issue has been chosen. Ford was the only president not on there, but neither was he elected.

I'm willing to bet if John McCain had won the presidency it would not have been his mug on the cover.

You betcha.

Even though she's a bit easier on the eyes.

hahaha -

Barack Obama stonewalls on Rod Blagojevich: “Don’t waste your question.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnd ... r_question

First, Barack Obama gives himself and his staff a clean bill of health over the Rod Blagojevich scandal.

Second, he announces and then conducts a quick "internal inquiry" that he said - quel surprise! - had cleared everyone in Obamaland.

Third, he says that at the request of the US attorney's office he is delaying releasing the results of that inquiry until December 22nd, which, happily enough for him, is just before Christmas.

So what happens next? At today's Chicago press conference Obama flat refused to say anything about anything at all related to Blagogate, using the US attorney's request to delay release of the inquiry results as an excuse to decline any comment.


*****

As an ADDED Bonus from Chicagoland / Gotham.

Obama must have got to these people also? Notice the real link on the above story on the side... Yet this story disappeared?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnd ... _and_fast_

MacUser wrote:hahaha -

Barack Obama stonewalls on Rod Blagojevich: “Don’t waste your question.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnd ... r_question

First, Barack Obama gives himself and his staff a clean bill of health over the Rod Blagojevich scandal.

Second, he announces and then conducts a quick "internal inquiry" that he said - quel surprise! - had cleared everyone in Obamaland.

Third, he says that at the request of the US attorney's office he is delaying releasing the results of that inquiry until December 22nd, which, happily enough for him, is just before Christmas.

So what happens next? At today's Chicago press conference Obama flat refused to say anything about anything at all related to Blagogate, using the US attorney's request to delay release of the inquiry results as an excuse to decline any comment.


*****

As an ADDED Bonus from Chicagoland / Gotham.

Obama must have got to these people also? Notice the real link on the above story on the side... Yet this story disappeared?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnd ... _and_fast_

Dude I think I hear an echo...didn't you post this earlier?

I don't want you to waste your posts.

Ahh... Let me educate Grasshopper.

The first was a two line Marketing Teaser. This is the expanded referenced article. Don't you work at a newspaper?