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Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

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Brian wrote:Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

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Worked for my kids.

Pastor Gary wrote:

Brian wrote:Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

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Worked for my kids.

I think it works too Gary. Seems like there is an hidden agenda with the upcoming administration change and a desire to redistrabute education funds away from abstenance education.

Brian wrote:I think it works too Gary. Seems like there is an hidden agenda with the upcoming administration change and a desire to redistrabute education funds away from abstenance education.

What's hidden about it? Democrats are openly against abstinence education. I haven't heard Obama's position on it, but I would be surprised if he didn't follow the Democratic platform on this issue.

yea I guess "hidden" was the wrong word......

Brian wrote:Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

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The part about not using any form of protection seems about right from my own circle. Everyone I know who made such pledges and had premarital sex anyway didn't use any protection. Which didn't make sense to me then and doesn't make sense to me now.

crispfin wrote:The part about not using any form of protection seems about right from my own circle. Everyone I know who made such pledges and had premarital sex anyway didn't use any protection. Which didn't make sense to me then and doesn't make sense to me now.

It sort of makes sense to me, since those who don't premeditate the act don't prepare for it. Those who premeditate it have protection in hand. What also makes sense to me is that condom education is society's tacit blessing on premarital sex, and it's not surprising, then, that fifty percent of teens engage in it. Our society's sex education philosophy is comparable to the absurdity of trying to teach kids how to smoke joints without getting high or to drink and drive responsibly. We should have, instead, a strong social taboo against premarital sex. Instead, our educational institutions teach kids how to have sex. What idiocy. We deserve more herpes than we've got.

Tim Elston wrote:

crispfin wrote:The part about not using any form of protection seems about right from my own circle. Everyone I know who made such pledges and had premarital sex anyway didn't use any protection. Which didn't make sense to me then and doesn't make sense to me now.

It sort of makes sense to me, since those who don't premeditate the act don't prepare for it. Those who premeditate it have protection in hand. What also makes sense to me is that condom education is society's tacit blessing on premarital sex, and it's not surprising, then, that fifty percent of teens engage in it. Our society's sex education philosophy is comparable to the absurdity of trying to teach kids how to smoke joints without getting high or to drink and drive responsibly. We should have, instead, a strong social taboo against premarital sex. Instead, our educational institutions teach kids how to have sex. What idiocy. We deserve more herpes than we've got.

True Tim, we can't prepare our kids for all the baggage and dangers of premiscuss unprotected sex by avoiding the subject like the plauge. Like you said it should be more socially taboo but far too many of the sex ed teachers want to push the "it's normal, it's suppose to happen" mentallity rather than teaching about how difficult those life decissions will be and there impact on the rest of the young persons social life.
Lets face it, to teens there social life and network is paramount. If it is taught that living the la vida loca life will devistate there social life then maybe a new and different light can be cast on the "sex in the city" behaviour.

Yeah there were two ladies on Fox and Friends this morning talking about this subject but right after that Fox interviewed a couple that for two years before they were married, they committed to not having sex. They made it and they both testified that it was an awesome thing for them.....my girlfriend has a daughter that is 25 I think and she has made the pledge to hold off until she is married, so to really show her commentment, she had the pledge ring tattooed on her ring finger and when she gets married her wedding ring will cover the tat....she is an awesome young lady that really loves Jesus and is serious about this....

Tim Elston wrote:

We deserve more herpes than we've got.

That would become my new tagline, but I don't want anyone to think I've "got herpes"!

The whole idea of "abstinance" comes from the heart of a person who has made personal choices to live in a certain way.

I deal with families all the time who are trying to keep their kids from having pre-maritial sex and yet are living together without being married.

It is not so much a "sex education" issue as it is an example issue. No one in Hollywoodland wants to be married. Parents have all but "blessed" the sex before marriage issue by not caring about their kids and what happens to them.

I am so saddened by the "myspace" problems that I have dealt with. Parent's neither know not care what is happening with their kids. And the kids are so much more computer literate than their parents, they can get away with almost anything.

NO, we lost this battle a long time ago. Do we need to keep preaching abstinance? Yes, but as long as fathers make idiotic statements like the last one I dealt with ...."my son has already made 5 babies with them hos"....they can't keep their hands off him....." Btw, he was a standout football player who is getting an appointment to a service academny. His dad is proud that he has fathered 5 kids in HS.

It goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy deeper than we want to realize.....I just got a call yesterday about another young girl.....hopefully she will keep the baby....the guys parents want it aborted,.......