Jude 2

I hate insomnia.

me too. so I just drink more coffee.

May I recommend prayer for hours.....while you won't fall asleep, you might just help someone else......

Wow, you could use that time to pray for your pastor.........he could sure use it........

Dr. Ron wrote:May I recommend prayer for hours.....while you won't fall asleep, you might just help someone else......

Wow, you could use that time to pray for your pastor.........he could sure use it........

I probably should have after the drama I have had today.

Dr. Ron,

That is an incredible suggestion. Seriously. It might be a reason.. God might want to hear from all the insomniacs (not speaking specifically to cat)

You might be called to be an intercessory prayer warrior. Just imagine that concept.

MacUser wrote:Dr. Ron,

That is an incredible suggestion. Seriously. It might be a reason.. God might want to hear from all the insomniacs (not speaking specifically to cat)

You might be called to be an intercessory prayer warrior. Just imagine that concept.

We were discussing this last night... I think it is temperament related.... I can't pray for a long time. I get restless and fidgety.

I also have a hard time finding things to say because I know God knows everything already. I start to say something and then realize God knows it so I just say, you know... help me.

I hate it when people do that to me. I like to converse as little as possible. If I already know something please don't rehearse it to me again. That is so annoying.

So... interceding is out for me. haha. God knows...

Cat, I understand trust me.

BUT I am reminded of my late Grandmother. I am reminded of when I stumbled up upon something very special one day.

I arrived at my Grandmothers and failed to get her to the door. I walked around the house concerned that I would find her hurt or harmed.

To my surprise as I walked up to her window.. it was slightly open. Suddenly I heard a powerful prayer spring forth for her family and offered up to God in a beautiful fashion followed by a pause, then she would resume powerfully praying for her family and church.

At first, I was stunned as I was in a place that I knew I should not have been. She was unaware I was outside her window. I intruded into a intercessory prayer moment and I felt it down to my core. I could sense the connection between Her and Her God. They were communicating in a very special manner and I was the outside party.

Without making a noise, I retreated. She was locked in her bedroom.. on here hands and knees praying for all US, including me. It's very humbling. I apologized to God for the intrusion and also thanked Him for allowing me to witness it. That I could see.

Now that She is gone. Who will be interceding for us now? Who will be the vigilant prayer warrior whom assumes these mantles?

God Bless You.

Mac a good wittness. Thanks I'm blessed for it.

We rehearsed in our mission service last night faithful people in the bible and faithful people who are gone on or still living...Several were allowed to stand and talk about people who have made an impact on them because of their faithfulness...When I think of the prayer warriors among us today they are few and far between...Some I know that are soon going to be off the scene...Oh how I want my life to be a testimony of faithfulness to God and to pray the prayer of faith for others...It's not how long or how eloquent, but the condition of the heart...In the Bible they prayed many varied ways, so God isn't looking at the position, but the condition of our heart...

Macuser what an honor to have someone who stood in the gap for you...I pray we all develop our prayer life to make a difference in someone's life...

MacUser wrote:Cat, I understand trust me.

BUT I am reminded of my late Grandmother. I am reminded of when I stumbled up upon something very special one day.

I arrived at my Grandmothers and failed to get her to the door. I walked around the house concerned that I would find her hurt or harmed.

To my surprise as I walked up to her window.. it was slightly open. Suddenly I heard a powerful prayer spring forth for her family and offered up to God in a beautiful fashion followed by a pause, then she would resume powerfully praying for her family and church.

At first, I was stunned as I was in a place that I knew I should not have been. She was unaware I was outside her window. I intruded into a intercessory prayer moment and I felt it down to my core. I could sense the connection between Her and Her God. They were communicating in a very special manner and I was the outside party.

Without making a noise, I retreated. She was locked in her bedroom.. on here hands and knees praying for all US, including me. It's very humbling. I apologized to God for the intrusion and also thanked Him for allowing me to witness it. That I could see.

Now that She is gone. Who will be interceding for us now? Who will be the vigilant prayer warrior whom assumes these mantles?

God Bless You.

I guess I don't understand the whole concept. Why do I need someone to intercede for me when I can pray myself??? I don't understand that. I can ask someone to help me pray or to join me in prayer but I don't get why the whole crying and yelling thing has to occur. I don't do that in close relationships I have here. I've never understood that. Yes there are time I yell and fuss.. but I can do that myself. Why do I need a "special" moment from someone else for me???

Do you understand my question? I just don't get it. Ultimately it is up to me to get things from God that I need. He wont force anything on me... and someone can't get saved for me. Makes no sense to me.

Ilovebigcats wrote:
I guess I don't understand the whole concept. Why do I need someone to intercede for me when I can pray myself??? I don't understand that. I can ask someone to help me pray or to join me in prayer but I don't get why the whole crying and yelling thing has to occur. I don't do that in close relationships I have here. I've never understood that. Yes there are time I yell and fuss.. but I can do that myself. Why do I need a "special" moment from someone else for me???

Do you understand my question? I just don't get it. Ultimately it is up to me to get things from God that I need. He wont force anything on me... and someone can't get saved for me. Makes no sense to me.

Your comment flashed that image in my head from Kung Fu with little bald kid standing there before the blind teacher holding out the little pebble, "When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, Grasshoppah, it will be time for you to go."

Do you really think it is up to you like that? That you are like Grasshoppah, and God is testing you to see how "quick", in a manner of speaking, you are to get something from Him?? Is He running from you, saying "Catch me if you can, Wenhoppah?" I am with you some on the prayerfulness thing, but I don't think it is up to me to get things from God that I need. I believe He supplies all my needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. I also believe I'm too pigheaded, stupid and self-interested to be Christ-like enough to enjoy that.

dolfan wrote:I believe He supplies all my needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. I also believe I'm too pigheaded, stupid and self-interested to be Christ-like enough to enjoy that.

I agree with you Dolfhoppah... my point was... why do I need some else interceding for me when I can pray for myself and God supplies my needs anyway. I don't get the whole idea. I throw pebbah at you head. *mouth is still moving Kung Fu movie style*

Ilovebigcats wrote:

dolfan wrote:I believe He supplies all my needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. I also believe I'm too pigheaded, stupid and self-interested to be Christ-like enough to enjoy that.

I agree with you Dolfhoppah... my point was... why do I need some else interceding for me when I can pray for myself and God supplies my needs anyway. I don't get the whole idea. I throw pebbah at you head. *mouth is still moving Kung Fu movie style*

This reminds me of another thread when someone was saying something

to the effect of tongues and interpretation not being necessary,

that we can all just hear God quietly in our heart.

We can, but not everyone is there, yet. Not everyone is there all the time, either. We need each other sometimes. We need to pray for our kids, for our pastors, for others in the church, for unsaved. It is one way God knits our hearts together with them.

Macuser thank you for sharing that testimony.

Wendy I hope your insomnia gets better soon! I laid off caffeine for a day or two and last night I slept very soundly I couldn't believe it!

Ilovebigcats wrote:

MacUser wrote:Cat, I understand trust me.

BUT I am reminded of my late Grandmother. I am reminded of when I stumbled up upon something very special one day.

I arrived at my Grandmothers and failed to get her to the door. I walked around the house concerned that I would find her hurt or harmed.

To my surprise as I walked up to her window.. it was slightly open. Suddenly I heard a powerful prayer spring forth for her family and offered up to God in a beautiful fashion followed by a pause, then she would resume powerfully praying for her family and church.

At first, I was stunned as I was in a place that I knew I should not have been. She was unaware I was outside her window. I intruded into a intercessory prayer moment and I felt it down to my core. I could sense the connection between Her and Her God. They were communicating in a very special manner and I was the outside party.

Without making a noise, I retreated. She was locked in her bedroom.. on here hands and knees praying for all US, including me. It's very humbling. I apologized to God for the intrusion and also thanked Him for allowing me to witness it. That I could see.

Now that She is gone. Who will be interceding for us now? Who will be the vigilant prayer warrior whom assumes these mantles?

God Bless You.

I guess I don't understand the whole concept. Why do I need someone to intercede for me when I can pray myself??? I don't understand that. I can ask someone to help me pray or to join me in prayer but I don't get why the whole crying and yelling thing has to occur. I don't do that in close relationships I have here. I've never understood that. Yes there are time I yell and fuss.. but I can do that myself. Why do I need a "special" moment from someone else for me???

Do you understand my question? I just don't get it. Ultimately it is up to me to get things from God that I need. He wont force anything on me... and someone can't get saved for me. Makes no sense to me.

Cats, I totally understand what you are saying...here's an example that might help. All through my life, I have been awaken in the middle of the night to pray for someone. Sometimes, God would let me know who the person was, and sometimes I didn't know. Those times I would just pray that God take care of "whoever" needed extra strength, healing, etc. I don't get on my knees anymore (bad knees), but I just lay there in my comfy bed, silently praying for "whoever". Most of the time, it's not even a long prayer, and I go back to sleep. What's so neat is sometimes God has allowed me to learn that those prayers were not fruitless in that the person I was awaken to pray for was in trouble and God came on the scene at the exact time I had been praying for them.

Yes, I think we are responsible for taking care of our own salvation, but when we have needs, its really nice knowing someone is praying for you. Also, even though God knows our needs already, He still like for us to talk to Him. I guess I've always talked to God like He was my best friend (which He is), not always praying about anything special. I hope this helps, even if its just a little. BTW, I have been praying for your insomnia. You are a very special young woman..God Bless You!