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what is the truth
Posted: January 22nd, 2009, 5:44 pm
by Full Quiver
I am hearing and receiving emails that Obama has signed an order or bill that says all abortions must be performed including partial birth and that docs and hospitals have no say. I have not heard this in the news. What is the truth? I have a feeling that people are exaggeration.
Re: what is the truth
Posted: January 22nd, 2009, 6:03 pm
by Tim Elston
Full Quiver wrote:I am hearing and receiving emails that Obama has signed an order or bill that says all abortions must be performed including partial birth and that docs and hospitals have no say. I have not heard this in the news. What is the truth? I have a feeling that people are exaggeration.
So far, it seems to be an exaggeration. He signed an order to rescind the restriction on federal funds going to NGO's that promote and fund abortions overseas. That's the extent of it, as far as I can tell. I don't like it, but I certainly do like several other of his executive orders today and yesterday, like the closing of Gitmo, the disallowance of torture, the accessibility of government, and probably some others I haven't read about yet.
Re: what is the truth
Posted: January 22nd, 2009, 6:11 pm
by Paully_44
Full Quiver wrote:I am hearing and receiving emails that Obama has signed an order or bill that says all abortions must be performed including partial birth and that docs and hospitals have no say. I have not heard this in the news. What is the truth? I have a feeling that people are exaggeration.
You mean like when some thought he was/is the Anti-Christ? I dont trust any "news" articles people email.
Posted: January 22nd, 2009, 7:09 pm
by Full Quiver
Well whether he is the antichrist or not is yet to be determined. Whether or not he has signed some abortion bill is a separate story. "Conservatives" best get their story straight if they want to be seen as true conservatives.
Posted: January 23rd, 2009, 3:55 am
by DeWayneTN
Exaggeration does not help the cause at all. There will be plenty to criticize without having to resort to distorting the facts. But I would love for him to prove us wrong.
What is the truth?
Posted: January 23rd, 2009, 11:47 am
by Dr. Ron
I made the statement about the abortion issue.
I got my information from a news report on 99.7. A news report mind you ....not a person being interviewed.
The whole story is not being told by the media....it would cause an uprising. If you want to know exactly what the bill says, go to the govt. web site and pull it up. That is the only true way to know.
Now, having said that......whether or not every report is totally accurate, we still know that he did in fact sign a bill that allows for partial birth aboriton, ab. on demand . without parental consent. ect.....
As for his closing Gitmo....doubt if it will actually come to pass,,,,sorry Tim...I know your bleeding heart will be offended by that.....
Gitmo was likely the best living conditions most of these "terrorists" have ever had.
Posted: January 23rd, 2009, 1:26 pm
by Full Quiver
Posted: January 23rd, 2009, 1:28 pm
by rjjunior
Though the order he signed was specific to international funding of abortions, Obama has publicly stated that one of his primary objectives is to sign the "Freedom of Choice Act" which will override all previous legislation and give abortionists cart blanche, including such heinous procedures such as partial birth abortion.
text:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1964:
The bill is still in sub-committee, but got closer to reality with the Democrat strength in both house and senate.
Posted: January 23rd, 2009, 1:41 pm
by Full Quiver
So it has not passed and has not been signed yet. That's different.