When the real world collides with campaign rhetoric

Postby **Pastor Gary** » January 23rd, 2009, 11:18 pm

Wired reports that Obama's administration is lining with Bush on supporting the warrantless-eavesdropping program, urging the courts to drop a case against it.

Welcome to the world of reality.

Who new · Postby **Who new** » January 24th, 2009, 5:23 am

So, now, distrust I've had about the Bush crowd's ability to handle eavesdropping on citizens you may now apply to President Obama's crowd.

Keith Olbermann had an interesting interview with Russell Tice of the NSA about who got spied on. I wonder who we should listen in on next.

http://www.commondreams.org/video/nsa-spied-journalists

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » January 24th, 2009, 7:39 am

Who new wrote:So, now, distrust I've had about the Bush crowd's ability to handle eavesdropping on citizens you may now apply to President Obama's crowd.

Keith Olbermann had an interesting interview with Russell Tice of the NSA about who got spied on. I wonder who we should listen in on next.

http://www.commondreams.org/video/nsa-spied-journalists

I haven't watched the video yet and don't know whether the claim to have intentionally eavesdropped on journalists is true, but I've never bought into the claim that warrants are too much of an impediment to effective intelligence gathering. From what I understand FISA law allowed the Executive to eavesdrop three days in advance of a warrant when a warrant could not be immediately obtained. It's a sufficient provision, and I am against unaccountable eavesdropping no matter who the Executive is.

Mole_J · Postby **Mole_J** » January 24th, 2009, 8:03 am

or maybe Obama is just Bush in disguise:-)

http://i40.tinypic.com/11tqy52.jpg

Who new · Postby **Who new** » January 24th, 2009, 9:05 am

Mole_J wrote:or maybe Obama is just Bush in disguise:-)

No way. Too many grammatically correct sentences:-)

one love · Postby **one love** » January 24th, 2009, 9:32 am

Who new wrote:
Mole_J wrote:or maybe Obama is just Bush in disguise:-)

No way. Too many grammatically correct sentences:-)

yeah you are correct Bush made many mistakes but not near as many Obama :lol:

:javascript:emoticon(':lol:')lol: :lol:

I am kidding I like that Mole_j that is really neat.

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » January 24th, 2009, 1:51 pm

Wired reports that Obama's administration is lining with Bush on supporting the warrantless-eavesdropping program, urging the courts to drop a case against it.

Of course, Obama wants to know who's talking about him.

rjjunior · Postby **rjjunior** » January 24th, 2009, 2:05 pm

Who new wrote:So, now, distrust I've had about the Bush crowd's ability to handle eavesdropping on citizens you may now apply to President Obama's crowd.

Keith Olbermann had an interesting interview with Russell Tice of the NSA about who got spied on. I wonder who we should listen in on next.

http://www.commondreams.org/video/nsa-spied-journalists

You lost me at...Keith Olbermann...

Who new · Postby **Who new** » January 24th, 2009, 2:40 pm

rjjunior wrote:You lost me at...Keith Olbermann...

That's okay. If you made it through the first paragraph then you completed the required reading.

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