Jude 2

The CIA's station chief at its sensitive post in Algeria is under investigation by the U.S. Justice Department for allegedly raping at least two Muslim women who claim he laced their drinks with a knock-out drug, U.S. law enforcement sources tell ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=6750266&page=1

If the words "accused" and "allegedly" are used in the story should not your post title reflect that rather than stating it as FACT?

I mean...lets give the CIA the same benefit as the gullable hand wringing nabobs of intellectualism give Gitmo terrorists.

Gerald Creasy wrote:If the words "accused" and "allegedly" are used in the story should not your post title reflect that rather than stating it as FACT?

I mean...lets give the CIA the same benefit as the gullable hand wringing nabobs of intellectualism give Gitmo terrorists.

Changed it, good point. I wonder if this will cause more hate america or any terrorist attacks. I remember Abu Ghraib the media played it over and over that we would have more attacks etc....

Gerald Creasy wrote:Gitmo terrorists.

innocent men alleged to be terrorists who were held for up to seven years without charge and on the basis of federal judicial review were deemed to have been held without due cause

Tim Elston wrote:innocent men alleged to be terrorists who were held for up to seven years without charge and on the basis of federal judicial review were deemed to have been held without due cause

Now that you can quit wringing your hands, what WILL BE your response when it is proven they go back to beheading non-Islamists?

I doubt you even have the cajones to face the possibility.

Gerald Creasy wrote:Now that you can quit wringing your hands, what WILL BE your response when it is proven they go back to beheading non-Islamists?

The men I'm talking about were innocent. Terrorists should be tried, proven guilty and sentenced to execution or imprisonment for their crimes based on evidence. Innocent men should not be arbitrarily incarcerated.

Tim Elston wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:Now that you can quit wringing your hands, what WILL BE your response when it is proven they go back to beheading non-Islamists?

The men I'm talking about were innocent. Terrorists should be tried, proven guilty and sentenced to execution or imprisonment for their crimes based on evidence. Innocent men should not be arbitrarily incarcerated.

You avoided my question; What heappens in YOUR MIND if it were to be proven (I would say WHEN it will be proven) they are NOT innocent before and return to their evil ways??

Will you cut the Bush Administration slack?
Will you you admit you had been gulled?
Will you voluntarily undergo waterboarding to pay for your intellectual naivete??

Gerald Creasy wrote:You avoided my question; What heappens in YOUR MIND if it were to be proven (I would say WHEN it will be proven) they are NOT innocent before and return to their evil ways???

That's why we have due process: to determine guilt or innocence. All men should be tried. Guilty men should be sentenced. Innocent men should be let go. If through due process a man were to be determined by evidence to be guilty, then he should be sentenced. Difficult concept for some people, apparently.

Tim Elston wrote:

Gerald Creasy wrote:You avoided my question; What heappens in YOUR MIND if it were to be proven (I would say WHEN it will be proven) they are NOT innocent before and return to their evil ways???

That's why we have due process: to determine guilt or innocence. All men should be tried. Guilty men should be sentenced. Innocent men should be let go. If through due process a man were to be determined by evidence to be guilty, then he should be sentenced. Difficult concept for some people, apparently.

It would be more difficult to have a liberal actually answer the question put to him.

I have a set of paintball guns that are single-load and shoot, that are for dueling.

you guys wanna borrow them?

Gerald Creasy wrote:

Tim Elston wrote:That's why we have due process: to determine guilt or innocence. All men should be tried. Guilty men should be sentenced. Innocent men should be let go. If through due process a man were to be determined by evidence to be guilty, then he should be sentenced. Difficult concept for some people, apparently.

It would be more difficult to have a liberal actually answer the question put to him.

That was a direct answer to your question, even though your question falsely implied your respect for due process. You have consistently presumed guilt and expressed contempt for due process.

Tim Elston wrote:That was a direct answer to your question, even though your question falsely implied your respect for due process. You have consistently presumed guilt and expressed contempt for due process.

Odd. I see no answer whatsoever to my question. I see your attempt to hide within insults but it does you no good.

Gerald Creasy wrote:Odd. I see no answer whatsoever to my question.

Odd indeed.

May I rewrite that headline?

"Muslim convert accused of raping fellow Muslim women."

How would that play in the international press?

Pastor Gary wrote:May I rewrite that headline?

"Muslim convert accused of raping fellow Muslim women."

How would that play in the international press?

good point but the fact that he is CIA still is horrible... I read that he was a convert,unreal