Jude 2

Posted: **January 31st, 2009, 6:33 am**

AP News Story:

Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure
Jan 31 08:16 AM US/Eastern

Ahmadinejad Demands U.S. Apology For 'Crimes' Committed Against Iran

US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.

"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.

"Negotiation is secondary, the main issue is that there is no way but for (the United States) to change," he added.

After nearly three decades of severed ties, Obama said shortly after taking office this month that he is willing to extend a diplomatic hand to Tehran if the Islamic republic is ready to "unclench its fist".

In response, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad launched a fresh tirade against the United States, demanding an apology for its "crimes" against Iran and saying he expected "deep and fundamental" change from Obama.

Iranian politicians frequently refer to the US administration as the "global arrogance", "domineering power" and "Great Satan".

Tensions with the United States have soared over Iran's nuclear drive and Ahmadinejad's vitriolic verbal attacks against Washington's close regional ally Israel.

Former US president George W. Bush refused to hold talks with the Islamic republic -- which he dubbed part of an "axis of evil" -- unless it suspended uranium enrichment, and never took a military option to thwart Tehran's atomic drive off the table.

Obama is making a grave error. He's trying to talk to these people like they are rational decision makers. They are nuts. The only way that they are going to behave is if they know we will render them into dust if they make the wrong move. They don't view his overtures as a sign of friendship. They view it as a sign of weakness.

Posted: **January 31st, 2009, 7:20 am**

DaJudge wrote:AP News Story:

Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure
Jan 31 08:16 AM US/Eastern

Ahmadinejad Demands U.S. Apology For 'Crimes' Committed Against Iran

US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.

"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.

"Negotiation is secondary, the main issue is that there is no way but for (the United States) to change," he added.

After nearly three decades of severed ties, Obama said shortly after taking office this month that he is willing to extend a diplomatic hand to Tehran if the Islamic republic is ready to "unclench its fist".

In response, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad launched a fresh tirade against the United States, demanding an apology for its "crimes" against Iran and saying he expected "deep and fundamental" change from Obama.

Iranian politicians frequently refer to the US administration as the "global arrogance", "domineering power" and "Great Satan".

Tensions with the United States have soared over Iran's nuclear drive and Ahmadinejad's vitriolic verbal attacks against Washington's close regional ally Israel.

Former US president George W. Bush refused to hold talks with the Islamic republic -- which he dubbed part of an "axis of evil" -- unless it suspended uranium enrichment, and never took a military option to thwart Tehran's atomic drive off the table.

Obama is making a grave error. He's trying to talk to these people like they are rational decision makers. They are nuts. The only way that they are going to behave is if they know we will render them into dust if they make the wrong move. They don't view his overtures as a sign of friendship. They view it as a sign of weakness.

Oh come on Dajudge all will be well with Iran if we just apologize and convert to islam and make it their style of a islamic theocracy, we will then get along fine. matter of fact we would be the super power and a nation if islam...Hmmm that could bring world peace, we would have all the muslims on our side and if someone crosses us they could just do some suicide bombings in their country :shock:

Posted: **January 31st, 2009, 7:23 am**

one love said:

Oh come on Dajudge all will be well with Iran if we just apologize and convert to islam and make it their style of a islamic theocracy, we will then get along fine. matter of fact we would be the super power and a nation if islam...Hmmm that could bring world peace, we would have all the muslims on our side and if someone crosses us they could just do some suicide bombings in their country

Waht about those who are half muslim and half christians ?

Posted: **January 31st, 2009, 8:07 am**

Waht about those who are half muslim and half christians ?

aka Obama

Posted: **January 31st, 2009, 11:16 am**

Full Quiver wrote:
Waht about those who are half muslim and half christians ?

aka Obama

Posted: **February 2nd, 2009, 7:36 am**

All they want is to be understood ](*,)

yeah right.

Posted: **February 2nd, 2009, 8:04 am**

paul wrote:Waht about those who are half muslim and half christians ?

I didn't know you could be half Christian!

I think if a person is half muslim, and half Christian, they are either all muslim, or neither.

Posted: **February 2nd, 2009, 8:21 am**

unless he is talking about populous, and not an individual.

Posted: **February 2nd, 2009, 8:50 am**

Pastor Bill wrote:
paul wrote:Waht about those who are half muslim and half christians ?

I didn't know you could be half Christian!

I think if a person is half muslim, and half Christian, they are either all muslim, or neither.

Bill, Sometimes in the west we fail to understand certain terms and how people identify themselves. In several countries certain tribes are considered Muslim tribes. If you are born in these particular tribes you are identified as a Muslim.

When one converts to christianity they become a christain. But are still considered a muslim because of their tribal background. Many will still refer to themselves a a born muslim who has received jesus as Savior.

Aslo it is not uncommon to hear expression like, "I was born catholic" but now I am " a born again believer"

Also in some countries you can hear comments like. They are muslim, or they are christians and then another group called "born again" distinguishing them from the accepted traditional christian beliefs. As if "born again" was a completely different denomination in itself.

Whe west has a very narrow understanding of how others view themselves.

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