Jude 2

Yesterday a lady called the Phil Valentine show and told about Michelle Obama coming to Nashville for the "debate" debacle......pitiful excuse for one....

She (Michelle) went shopping at a boutique owned by a Titan's wife. They were and are big Obama supporters. M Obama bought 15,000.00 worth of clothes, shoes and bags.....(sorry Sarah, you don't matter)....paid with a personal check. It bounced.

They called the local police who called the FBI who called the Secret Service who brought two large garbage bags full of clothes, bags, and shoes, and dumped them on the counter of the boutique and left......

These decent and humble and worthy individuals should not have to be responsible for their "miss steps".....

The media has known about this since the election.....had this been Cindy MeCain, what do you think would have happened?

Where did you hear this at? Who is Sarah? Who is Phil Valentine? Do you have something to post that we can read?

Sarah is Sarah Palin. Phil Valentine is a radio talk show host in Nashville. I haven't checked it out, but he may have transcripts of his show on his website. Just Google him.

Jinjer

classy

Should we expect anything mor from a woman that went to the finest schools in the country and is mad because she had to pay for that education?

No reference to it on Phil Valentine's site, and I couldn't find anything about it through Google. Oh, but I would soooooooo loooooove for that to be true! What pathetic human beings those Obamas are! I never!

Tim Elston wrote:No reference to it on Phil Valentine's site, and I couldn't find anything about it through Google. Oh, but I would soooooooo loooooove for that to be true! What pathetic human beings those Obamas are! I never!

Tim just as an observation, but why are you so seeming ready to pounce and ridicule any comment made about the Obamas that may cast them in a bad light? Is it not important that they are exsposed for what they are, normal?! The liberal media has made them out to be something they are not Tim. They are NOT the answer the all of our problems today. They are NOT the embodyment of what it means to be a good American. But many of there own words and actions reveal there true nature and intent to destroy all that makes America a good and nobel country and replace it with liberal left wing ideology, an appoligetic and weak image to where we bow to the aggressions of the rest of the world. Tim, this simply should not be!
The Obamas are being poised by the liberal media as the perfect shining example of the all American family when they are nothing but! But how dare us christians try to poke holes in the armor of the king..err um, the President! (and his wife)

Brian asked:

Tim just as an observation, but why are you so seeming ready to pounce and ridicule any comment made about the Obamas that may cast them in a bad light?

Because Tim has made it his life's mission to bring understanding to us all. Translation.....too much time on his hands.

Brian wrote:The Obamas are being poised by the liberal media as the perfect shining example of the all American family when they are nothing but! But how dare us christians try to poke holes in the armor of the king..err um, the President! (and his wife)

Brian, I sometimes go to bed between 9 and 10, and my custom is to fall asleep to whatever is airing on NPR. During that hour a program called Democracy Now, with Amy Goodman is on. Unfortunately, I often have to turn it off because sometimes it's too stupidly radically left for me. You probably don't listen to that program, but every other time I listen to it they are criticizing Obama for his policies. Obama is, in fact, a disappointment to liberals because his policies are too much aligned with the center left for them.

Obama is governing as a centrist, Brian. He is center left; his policies are generally moderate. The usual suspects here on Jude 2, though, are too bigoted to allow themselves to have a perception of the truth about that. They aren't interested in the truth. They can't even see it. They have evovled into creatures whose retinas can visualize only bigotry against their perceived political enemies. They have a visceral need to paint the Obamas with as much feces as possible in order to sooth their suffering bile excretions.

Why do I pounce on this garbage? Do I think the Obamas are more than human? No. Do I think they hung the moon? No. I ridicule this anti-Obama nonsense because I despise the hypocritical self-righteous ugliness that the nonsense is. I am glad to be here to throw as much cold water and derision as I can on it. The Obamas don't even rate compared to the contempt I have for the self-righteous lot that can't but malign him.

Fair enough Tim. But is it possible that your contempt for the so called self-righteous has blinded you in such a way where you can't see the truth in there critique?

Brian wrote:Fair enough Tim. But is it possible that your contempt for the so called self-righteous has blinded you in such a way where you can't see the truth in there critique?

That's possible, yes, but it isn't likely. I already know that the Obamas are human. I already despise Obama's voting record on abortion. I already disagree with the assumptions of the stimulus package, though I understand that 99% of Americans share them with him. I already know that he doesn't have the Queen's refinement and that he's not a redneck, either.

But your point is tragic, not because my reaction to bigotry might bias me against believing whatever truth might lie behind any given slander that drools, but because it is bigotry. Bigotry serves no side of any disagreement.

Tim Elston wrote:

Brian wrote:Fair enough Tim. But is it possible that your contempt for the so called self-righteous has blinded you in such a way where you can't see the truth in there critique?

That's possible, yes, but it isn't likely. I already know that the Obamas are human. I already despise Obama's voting record on abortion. I already disagree with the assumptions of the stimulus package, though I understand that 99% of Americans share them with him. I already know that he doesn't have the Queen's refinement and that he's not a redneck, either.

But your point is tragic, not because my reaction to bigotry might bias me against believing whatever truth might lie behind any given slander that drools, but because it is bigotry. Bigotry serves no side of any disagreement.

Shifting a little from the political to the religious.....the Apostle Paul also had many blemishes in his resume' but that didn't stop his from taking the high road of spiritual authority, pointing out the error in the ways of his countrymen and laying the foundation to true and righteous living that should be desired by the rest of the christian body. Conflict of interest? Should he have remained silent because of his self proclaimed title as cheif of sinners? I think not.

Brian wrote:Shifting a little from the political to the religious.....the Apostle Paul also had many blemishes in his resume' but that didn't stop his from taking the high road of spiritual authority, pointing out the error in the ways of his countrymen and laying the foundation to true and righteous living that should be desired by the rest of the christian body. Conflict of interest? Should he have remained silent because of his self proclaimed title as cheif of sinners? I think not.

Fair enough, Brian. Then take the high road, not the road of self-serving bigotry. Not you particularly; anyone, including Paul and Mother Mary.

Tim Elston wrote:

Brian wrote:Shifting a little from the political to the religious.....the Apostle Paul also had many blemishes in his resume' but that didn't stop his from taking the high road of spiritual authority, pointing out the error in the ways of his countrymen and laying the foundation to true and righteous living that should be desired by the rest of the christian body. Conflict of interest? Should he have remained silent because of his self proclaimed title as cheif of sinners? I think not.

Fair enough, Brian. Then take the high road, not the road of self-serving bigotry. Not you particularly; anyone, including Paul and Mother Mary.

So Paul was a self serving bigot? Or is it my interpretation of his character that causes you distress?

Brian wrote:So Paul was a self serving bigot? Or is it my interpretation of his character that causes you distress?

What causes distress to me, Brian, is people, whether past or present, using God as a cover for genocide and other "holy" things. I don't recall either Jesus or Paul calling for the extermination of Samaritans or anyone else, for that matter. If anyone's theology gives a pass to mistreatment, murder, and genocide, then screw it and its so-called loving god.

and my custom is to fall asleep to whatever is airing on NPR.

not hard to do; fall asleep listening to NPR that is

God called for genocide of entire peoples throughout the OT Tim. He included women and children and maybe even livestock. The problem is that the Israelites were to "politically correct" to obey and they suffer to this day for it.

Still bogs my mind how someone can be opposed to someone for their pro-abortion stance and funding of forced abortions and yet think the person is just human, a nice guy, and doing a good job at LEADING!