Jude 2

Obama is pushing for this new 2nd stimulus package even though not even 10% of the first stimulus package has even been spent yet.
Now he is going to be faced with the reality that if he pushes for the 2nd stimulus he is going to have to most likely give up on health care.

So goes the question which would be worse for us? If one is going to happen with out a doubt which would you prefer? Horrible question I know they are both disastrous.

With that in mind I wish Tim Elston could come back so we could have another view of this again....

I suggest that Congress rescind the first stimulus since very little of the money has been spent anyhow. Rescind it since it didn't work, like we knew it wouldn't, and save our children the debt.

Both would be worse for us.

I don't like either, but I think the debt could be paid off, the health care, would change our system forever.

$1 trillion deficits, many more already than that in debt ..... will never be paid off. Might the lenders make profits from the interest in excess of the principal? Oh, sure, but we'll always be in debt. Always. It'll never get paid. The nation would never be in the red, not with Social Security, Medicare and Defense spending being what it is in toto. No way. (Not being a dove on defense, but somebody's gotta pay for it.) That's why the government should pare back its functions to the barest of them. Good, wide, well-maintained paved roads (and I'd even add light rail and air travel to that mandate), solidly protected borders patrolled by live, heavily armed men and large, ominous deadly weapons of the most sophisticated sorts, and otherwise leave us alone. Drill here, drill now. Grow here, feed here. A fair tax of the Neil (Neal??) Boortz variety. An absolute Federal shutdown on almost every single program except for defense and whatever is only necessary to build and maintain the roads. No budget increases except as required by the growth rate of inflation. Term limits for Congress at 6 years, for the Senate at 12, with no person able to leap from one house to the other without sitting out for 8 years. States are recognized as sovereigns, and no government intrusion into anyone's house without probable cause to believe a crime is at that time being committed that presents a temporally immediate threat to people other than the persons actually perpetrating the crime (the law should let people kill themselves all day long with the consequences their own bad behavior if they want to), but other than that, no warrants to be issued, no searches or raids to be conducted by police and no restrictions on discovery of prosecution information at trial. Unrestricted gun ownership for all adults. All elected officials subject to recall elections, no matter what level of government. Any other ideas?