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Those that never heard

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 11:38 am
by beckrl
I was thinking on those in our past history that never heard the gospel preached unto them. Sometimes I label them as an unbeliever, but that isn't the case. An unbeliever is one that lacks the faith, but has heard the gospel.

I'm sure in times pasted that there where people that never heard the gospel in some remote part of the world.

How does a righteous God judge those that has never heard?

Re: Those that never heard

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 11:09 am
by paul
beckrl wrote:I was thinking on those in our past history that never heard the gospel preached unto them. Sometimes I label them as an unbeliever, but that isn't the case. An unbeliever is one that lacks the faith, but has heard the gospel.

I'm sure in times pasted that there where people that never heard the gospel in some remote part of the world.

How does a righteous God judge those that has never heard?


I don't think that I would be taking this out of context.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:

But for me, it gives me a sense of knowing that God has a way of revealing himself to all mankind. This does not lessen our responsibility to share the gospel with the world, but a comfort that the Holy Spirit is always at work. A book I have recemmended in the past. " Eternity in Their Hearts", Don Richardson, Regal Publishing ( ISBN 0-8307-0925-8 ) is a great example of this scripture at work in the present world

Re: Those that never heard

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 12:59 pm
by beckrl
paul wrote:
beckrl wrote:I was thinking on those in our past history that never heard the gospel preached unto them. Sometimes I label them as an unbeliever, but that isn't the case. An unbeliever is one that lacks the faith, but has heard the gospel.

I'm sure in times pasted that there where people that never heard the gospel in some remote part of the world.

How does a righteous God judge those that has never heard?


I don't think that I would be taking this out of context.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:

But for me, it gives me a sense of knowing that God has a way of revealing himself to all mankind. This does not lessen our responsibility to share the gospel with the world, but a comfort that the Holy Spirit is always at work. A book I have recemmended in the past. " Eternity in Their Hearts", Don Richardson, Regal Publishing ( ISBN 0-8307-0925-8 ) is a great example of this scripture at work in the present world


Paul
That passage is one I though of, would we assume that one can be saved by only believing in God, and having no knowledge of his Son?

The passage of Romans speaks of the Gentiles guilt and the result of that guilt. No man is without guilt, (for the heavens declare)but without the knowledge of the Son can you be saved?

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me

Re: Those that never heard

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 2:06 pm
by paul
beckrl wrote:
paul wrote:
beckrl wrote:I was thinking on those in our past history that never heard the gospel preached unto them. Sometimes I label them as an unbeliever, but that isn't the case. An unbeliever is one that lacks the faith, but has heard the gospel.

I'm sure in times pasted that there where people that never heard the gospel in some remote part of the world.

How does a righteous God judge those that has never heard?


I don't think that I would be taking this out of context.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:

But for me, it gives me a sense of knowing that God has a way of revealing himself to all mankind. This does not lessen our responsibility to share the gospel with the world, but a comfort that the Holy Spirit is always at work. A book I have recemmended in the past. " Eternity in Their Hearts", Don Richardson, Regal Publishing ( ISBN 0-8307-0925-8 ) is a great example of this scripture at work in the present world


Paul
That passage is one I though of, would we assume that one can be saved by only believing in God, and having no knowledge of his Son?

The passage of Romans speaks of the Gentiles guilt and the result of that guilt. No man is without guilt, (for the heavens declare)but without the knowledge of the Son can you be saved?

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me


Personally I understand where you are coming from. I do believe that once a person has heard the mesage of Jesus, they then are accountable of how they respond to Him.

For those who have never had an opportunity to hear that name, I do believe that God who is all sovereign can reveal himself, His Son and the power of the Holy Spirit. Again the book I was referring to gives examples of remote tribes that understood the concept of a all mighty God, one tribe even referenced a son coming to make a sacrifice even though they had never heard of Jesus.

I still always believe that God is God.