Agree or disagree?
Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 1:12 pm
"You can be committed to Church but not committed to Christ, but you cannot be committed to Christ and not committed to church."
-- Joel Osteen
-- Joel Osteen
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Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 1:13 pm
Agree (respectively).
Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 1:21 pm
Agree.
Re: Agree or disagree?
Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 1:26 pm
Pastor Gary wrote:"You can be committed to Church but not committed to Christ, but you cannot be committed to Christ and not committed to church."
-- Joel Osteen
agree
Posted: August 3rd, 2009, 3:54 pm
agree (though again, church equating to a participatory fellowship)
Posted: August 4th, 2009, 7:39 am
It has to be true, even if Joel Osteen said it. 
Seriously, Jesus prayed that we'd be one with one another, as He is one with the Father. "I in them," He said. There's no real, genuine oneness with Christ without oneness with His people. I know it for real.
Seriously, Jesus prayed that we'd be one with one another, as He is one with the Father. "I in them," He said. There's no real, genuine oneness with Christ without oneness with His people. I know it for real.
Posted: August 4th, 2009, 12:26 pm
I am committed to Christ and his Kingdom. That doesn't include church.
I am committed to the citizenry of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven...but not church.
There is a difference. A church has tares, bad fish, and wolves.
I am committed to the citizenry of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven...but not church.
There is a difference. A church has tares, bad fish, and wolves.
Posted: August 6th, 2009, 7:14 am
I disagree based on a new converts mind or lack of a spiritual mind. So not in all cases is the quote correct in my opinion.
Posted: August 6th, 2009, 8:27 am
Agree that a maturing walk with the Lord should definitely involve church..new believers generally do gravitate towards church also as they need help with their new walk.
(This is jennifer btw)
(This is jennifer btw)
Posted: August 6th, 2009, 12:56 pm
Agree...
Posted: August 6th, 2009, 1:17 pm
JohnDB wrote:I am committed to Christ and his Kingdom. That doesn't include church.
I am committed to the citizenry of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven...but not church.
There is a difference. A church has tares, bad fish, and wolves.
the church is the bride of Christ. you cant except him and not his bride!!!
so i agree with the statement.
Posted: August 7th, 2009, 2:25 am
Dude, I got friends but I don't care for their wives. Jesus loves everyone but churches don't!
Posted: August 7th, 2009, 6:38 am
The true Church does love everyone, walking in the Spirit manifests that kind of love, in ourselves that is an impossible task for sure. How can one pray and bless others without loving them?Full Quiver wrote:Dude, I got friends but I don't care for their wives. Jesus loves everyone but churches don't!
Posted: August 7th, 2009, 9:54 am
Rough Rider, Jesus said you will be known as my disciples by the love you have ONE FOR ANOTHER not by the love you have for everyone. It's hard to love people at times and if you say you love me the first time you meet me then I say hogwash because you really don't.
Posted: August 7th, 2009, 10:13 am
which has even more impact if you don't equate disciples and "Christians".