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Random quotes to ponder

Postby Pastor Gary » August 4th, 2009, 10:14 am

If we are the body of Christ and Christ came not for the healthy but the sick-we need to be fully present in the places where people are most broken.

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"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)

"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous;
you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)

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Postby forestwalker » August 4th, 2009, 12:33 pm

For ye have the poor always with you...
For the truth that lies at the heart of theology is not something there to be discovered, but something, or rather someone, to whom we must surrender. The mystery of faith is not ultimately something that invites our questioning, but something that questions us.
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Postby Pastorbps » August 4th, 2009, 1:21 pm

If we are the body of Christ and Christ came not for the healthy but the sick-we need to be fully present in the places where people are most broken.


All are "Broken" in the sense all need to be "fixed." Some are not "Broken" in the sense they have surrendered their rebellion, accepted their responsibility for their sinful state, and are ready to accept the Word of God. Those "poor" people are who we should be seeking out. Most of the time those people are those who are financially poor & whose lives are in a shambles. It is usually not those who are rich, "self-made", self-sufficient, who think their lives are not broken and who don't want any help. In that sense we need to be with the broken who are broken while not ignoring the broken who aren't broken. :D

"Blessed are the poor in Spirit for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven." (Matt 5:3)

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Uh huh...

Postby Pastor Gary » August 4th, 2009, 1:33 pm

forestwalker wrote:For ye have the poor always with you...


...and that verse is not intended to say "Might as well throw up your hands and do nothing, because you will never eliminate poverty." Rather it suggests that there will always be opportunities and reasons to bless those less fortunate.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)



"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous;
you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)

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Postby forestwalker » August 4th, 2009, 4:22 pm

No doubt! I posted that as supporting the quote, not contradicting it. Christ's statement is not one of cynical futility but the presumption that His people will always be among and serving the poor and that the poor will always be attracted to the Gospel.
For the truth that lies at the heart of theology is not something there to be discovered, but something, or rather someone, to whom we must surrender. The mystery of faith is not ultimately something that invites our questioning, but something that questions us.

Andrew Louth, Discerning the Mystery


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