Jude 2

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http://www.cogop.org/269002.ihtml

I can't speak for anyone at the IO, but I can guess...

there are a lot of thin-skinned, easily offended people out there, and they pick up the phone and make hurt/angry phone calls to the three-story building on Keith Street at the slightest offense.

I know, because calls have been made over posts and threads on Jude2 which is not any kind of official or unofficial voice of COGOP or anyone else... yet people feel compelled to be offended, and they call Cleveland demanding that "something be done."

So a generic, cover-our-rear-end disclaimer is preemptive, I suspect.

I can understand that point, but why in the first place?

There are some good points I guess about anything on the web

For example;
"On our most recent visit we found a section called "Your Johnson and You: The Lowdown on Male Anatomy" peek into what kids are learning about sexuality from mainstream culture. Planned Parenthood operates the site.

So we are to learn more about homosexuality?

beckrl wrote:I can understand that point, but why in the first place?

There are some good points I guess about anything on the web

For example;
"On our most recent visit we found a section called "Your Johnson and You: The Lowdown on Male Anatomy" peek into what kids are learning about sexuality from mainstream culture. Planned Parenthood operates the site.

So we are to learn more about homosexuality?

Again, I am not a spokesperson or apologist for anyone, but -- just for example -- I frequently check sites like the Daily Coz (super liberal for me) TMZ and others who post things I find outrageous and/or offensive, because I think it's important that we see and understand the kind of things that are affecting and influencing our culture and the worldview of the younger generation. I don't like a lot of it, don't agree with much of it, but I need to be aware.

Pastor Gary wrote:

beckrl wrote:I can understand that point, but why in the first place?

There are some good points I guess about anything on the web

For example;
"On our most recent visit we found a section called "Your Johnson and You: The Lowdown on Male Anatomy" peek into what kids are learning about sexuality from mainstream culture. Planned Parenthood operates the site.

So we are to learn more about homosexuality?

Again, I am not a spokesperson or apologist for anyone, but -- just for example -- I frequently check sites like the Daily Coz (super liberal for me) TMZ and others who post things I find outrageous and/or offensive, because I think it's important that we see and understand the kind of things that are affecting and influencing our culture and the worldview of the younger generation. I don't like a lot of it, don't agree with much of it, but I need to be aware.

Where were ministers like you at when I was growing up? "Back then" so many were hiding their heads in the sand at the reality that was happening around them. Because so many were that way alot of my generation that grew up in the church became disillusioned and drifted away never to return. I saw too many churches with an abundence of young people that had an older pastor appointed to their church and they were left out because "you are too young". My guess is that the reason that so many of yalls churches today involve the youth is because those of my generation who "survived" remember what it was like and now know better then to leave the youth out, lest they be lost like most of my generation was.

ImaPK wrote:My guess is that the reason that so many of yalls churches today involve the youth is because those of my generation who "survived" remember what it was like and now know better then to leave the youth out, lest they be lost like most of my generation was.

Ah, grasshopper... you grasp the ancient wisdom of the orient.

Well, again I'm not sure why some are in this list and some are so old they are not even up anymore Really up todate

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Pastor Gary wrote:

ImaPK wrote:My guess is that the reason that so many of yalls churches today involve the youth is because those of my generation who "survived" remember what it was like and now know better then to leave the youth out, lest they be lost like most of my generation was.

Ah, grasshopper... you grasp the ancient wisdom of the orient.

PG, in fear of sounding bitter, there was a "core group" of about ten of us in California who were considered the "leaders" among my generation.(DB's wife would know them) Out of those ten 2 are dead now(that I know of). One became Youth Camp Director in CA but last I heard is now out of the church. One lives in Oregon and as far as I know is the only one who "made it through".(Paully would know) And the rest turned out like me.