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Drug agents shoot GA pastor

Posted: September 3rd, 2009, 4:11 pm
by pastorables

Police

Posted: September 3rd, 2009, 5:29 pm
by Pastor Gary
I am generally a big supporter of law enforcement, and give the police the benefit of the doubt, but -- seriously -- this is messed up.

Posted: September 3rd, 2009, 5:36 pm
by MacUser
Sad

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 3:40 am
by macgulley
Very sad but other reports have more details such as:
"Bankhead said agents approached Ayers for questioning but the pastor tried to avoid them, putting his car in reverse before he struck one of the agents."
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20696049/detail.html

Hmmmmmm

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 11:23 am
by Pastor Gary
macgulley wrote:Very sad but other reports have more details such as:
"Bankhead said agents approached Ayers for questioning but the pastor tried to avoid them, putting his car in reverse before he struck one of the agents."
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20696049/detail.html


Yeah -- if three people, not in uniforms, jumped from a black SUV waving weapons and yelling at me when I had done nothing wrong, I'd REALLY try to avoid them, and might have run them over.

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 11:25 am
by forestwalker
Are you sure you would react differently Mac if when getting in your car after stopping at the ATM three guys pulled up beside you in a black Escalade and jumped out yelling and pointing guns at you? If this is their SOP for picking someone up for questioning then their SOP is in serious need of review.

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 11:54 am
by macgulley
forestwalker wrote:Are you sure you would react differently Mac if when getting in your car after stopping at the ATM three guys pulled up beside you in a black Escalade and jumped out yelling and pointing guns at you? If this is their SOP for picking someone up for questioning then their SOP is in serious need of review.


Actually, a gun battle would have ensued if I didn't know they were cops and I suspect there would be several funerals, not just one.
However, the original post seemed to say that out of the blue some guys jumped out of an Escalade and started shooting. My post was simply to point out that the original post didn't carry the whole story, i.e. that a known drug dealer had just gotten out of the car and that the pastor had hit one of the officers with his vehicle.
Here's another snippet from CNN:
The officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.

The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."

Ayers put the car in reverse and backed up, striking an officer, Bankhead said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/04/geo ... index.html

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 12:10 pm
by macgulley
Whatever the circumstances, this is certainly a tragedy and my prayers go out to all involved.

Characters

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 12:57 pm
by Pastor Gary
macgulley wrote: from CNN:
The officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.

The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."


I have given rides to ex-cons, crack users, and various unsavory characters and probably more than a few with warrants. Kind of scary.

Re: Characters

Posted: September 4th, 2009, 4:12 pm
by one love
Pastor Gary wrote:
macgulley wrote: from CNN:
The officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.

The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."


I have given rides to ex-cons, crack users, and various unsavory characters and probably more than a few with warrants. Kind of scary.


good for you for showing love to those that desperately need it. Just thought I would add that.