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Jews and their UNCONDITIONAL Promise
Posted: December 3rd, 2011, 8:55 am
by Gerald
According to the theology of some Christians:
If I am born a Jew I have favor, promise and Blessings. I can deny Christ, Mock him, think my ancestors did right in nailing his stinky body to the cross and should my Temple ever be rebuilt and they sacrifice a fly swatting cow, I can give Jesus the figer, my sins are covered. I'm a Jew.
BUt if I am a Christian and Don't tithe, or drink a bear, or say a swear word, or marry for a second time after being cheated on Or GOD FORBID have a sarcastic attitude...then Jesus revokes my salvation.
THEREFORE the Promise to the Jews was Better than the Promise Jesus gives us.
They can NEVER lose their favor, but we can lose it at the drop of a hat.
Posted: December 12th, 2011, 8:52 am
by Full Quiver
Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
In my opinion Jesus took the curse and therefore there is no more curse for us to face.
Re: Jews and their UNCONDITIONAL Promise
Posted: December 12th, 2011, 9:06 am
by scooter
Gerald wrote: I can give Jesus the figer.
Response: Oh no not the figer.
I've always wonder how that happened in some peoples mind also.
I do support Israel in that they are a friend of democracy of sorts, more so than any other Middle East Country.
I have heard first hand accounts of the difference between Israel and their nieghbors in the physical condition described as a garden to a slum.
Re: Jews and their UNCONDITIONAL Promise
Posted: December 12th, 2011, 10:34 am
by dolfan
scooter wrote:Gerald wrote: I can give Jesus the figer.
Response: Oh no not the figer.
I've always wonder how that happened in some peoples mind also.
I do support Israel in that they are a friend of democracy of sorts, more so than any other Middle East Country.
I have heard first hand accounts of the difference between Israel and their nieghbors in the physical condition described as a garden to a slum.
Now learn a parable of the figer tree.....

Re: Jews and their UNCONDITIONAL Promise
Posted: December 12th, 2011, 10:48 am
by scooter
Re: Jews and their UNCONDITIONAL Promise
Posted: December 16th, 2011, 12:15 pm
by Gerald
scooter wrote:I've always wonder how that happened in some peoples mind also.
I do support Israel in that they are a friend of democracy of sorts, more so than any other Middle East Country.
I have heard first hand accounts of the difference between Israel and their nieghbors in the physical condition described as a garden to a slum.
Thanks for the support.
The thing that is NEVER taken into consideration when people talk the "Chosen Race" "Holy Jew" talk is that WITHOUT GOD, they as a people are NOTHING.
It is ALL about relationship.
It is WHY that the JEws are called the Church in the Septuagint (the Old testament in use at Jesus time) and THOSE SET APART are STILL called the CHURCH.
You cant have the holy chosenness without God, and you cant have God without submitting to Christ which the Jews will not do.