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BCS Bowl Lineup Prediction
Posted: November 9th, 2009, 4:21 am
by Pastorbps
BCS Champoinship Game - Texas vs. Florida
Fiesta Bowl - TCU vs. Cincinnati
Cotton Bowl - Ohio State vs. USC (Or Pac 10 winner. Who is a BIG question)
Sugar Bowl - Boise vs. Alabama
Orange Bowl - Clemson (So I'm prejudiced. Insert Ga. Tech if you're a non-believer) vs. Oklahoma St.
Posted: November 9th, 2009, 7:10 am
by dolfan
You meant Rose instead of Cotton, didn't you?
I have always thought the Cotton Bowl should've been in the BCS bowl lineup.
Posted: November 9th, 2009, 8:25 am
by Pastorbps
You're right. Rose instead of Cotton.
Re: BCS Bowl Lineup Prediction
Posted: November 10th, 2009, 2:34 am
by Rob
Pastorbps wrote:BCS Champoinship Game - Texas vs. Florida
Fiesta Bowl - TCU vs. Cincinnati
Cotton Bowl - Ohio State vs. USC (Or Pac 10 winner. Who is a BIG question)
Sugar Bowl - Boise vs. Alabama
Orange Bowl - Clemson (So I'm prejudiced. Insert Ga. Tech if you're a non-believer) vs. Oklahoma St.
Two things. First Boise or TCU will be left out of the BCS, remember only
onenon-BCS conference team can make the BCS bowls.
At this time I think that will be Boise.
Also, I really think Bama will beat Florida in the SEC championship game and I think it will be Texas against Bama in the Championship game.
The Rose bowl will be Ohio St. and Oregon
The Fiesta Bowl will be USC - TCU
Sugar Bowl - Florida - Cincinnati
Orange - GT - Pittsburgh
I had a tough time picking a team to play GT.
Remember in the BCS team only 2 teams from one conference can play in a BCS.
Posted: November 10th, 2009, 4:26 am
by Pastorbps
Not sure you're right. I know only 2 teams can come from one conference BUT the BCS site says this:
4. If spots remain after the above teams are slotted, a bowl can select any other team that finishes in the top 14, but no more than two teams from a conference can participate.
If you are right and Boise is left out in favor of Oregon or USC that would be ridiculous. There is no way Oregon or USC belongs in the BCS instead of Boise. Once again Boise is UNDEFEATED and beat Oregon and now Oregon has 2 losses. I hope you're not right.
Posted: November 11th, 2009, 4:28 am
by Rob
Pastorbps wrote:Not sure you're right. I know only 2 teams can come from one conference BUT the BCS site says this:
4. If spots remain after the above teams are slotted, a bowl can select any other team that finishes in the top 14, but no more than two teams from a conference can participate.
If you are right and Boise is left out in favor of Oregon or USC that would be ridiculous. There is no way Oregon or USC belongs in the BCS instead of Boise. Once again Boise is UNDEFEATED and beat Oregon and now Oregon has 2 losses. I hope you're not right.
Read this article.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3119690
If TCU wins out, which I think they will, they will receive the non-BCS conference Bid.
Posted: November 11th, 2009, 5:04 am
by Pastorbps
No more than one such team from the non-BCS leagues can receive an automatic berth in one season.
Only one can receive the "automatic" berth. Another team can still receive an "at-large" bid.
Read this article
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncf
Particularly the section entitled "BCS Bowl Manifesto." They can and may choose USC or Iowa but that would be ridiculous.
You may also want to read how teams are refusing to sign Boise to their schedules. It's not Boise's fault everyone is afraid.
Posted: November 11th, 2009, 5:07 pm
by Rob
Pastorbps wrote:No more than one such team from the non-BCS leagues can receive an automatic berth in one season.
Only one can receive the "automatic" berth. Another team can still receive an "at-large" bid.
Read this article
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncf Particularly the section entitled "BCS Bowl Manifesto." They can and may choose USC or Iowa but that would be ridiculous.
You may also want to read how teams are refusing to sign Boise to their schedules. It's not Boise's fault everyone is afraid.
Read the article and while Forde makes sense but the truth of the matter is this. With the remaining games on Boise schedule Idaho 7-3; Utah State 2-7; Nevada 6-3; New Mexico St. 3-6; not a juggernaut schedule to say the least. Meaning, I think that they will fall in both the polls and in the computer rankings. Meaning simply this, I don't see Boise making a BCS bowl, and I for one don't see the tragedy in that.
The BCS is suppose to put the best teams together, and I for one certainly don't think that Boise is one of the 10 best teams in the Country.
With regards to schools paying Boise 7 figures is crazy. I can't believe that Va Tech is going to pay them that much. And what's worse they are not even playing in Blacksburg.
Having said all of this, we a few more weeks it will all shake out then we can discuss who and what will be the best bowl game.
Posted: November 11th, 2009, 5:23 pm
by ImaPK
For the sake of argument let's throw this hypothetical scenerio out...suppose that with the remaining schedules of all teams, that TCU and Boise State wind up as the only undefeated teams in the country and everyone else has two losses, what then? Would we have another "two loss LSU" as a National Champion? If one or the other goes to a BCS Bowl and wins while the other goes to a non-BCS Bowl and wins what then? Let's see...11-2 Florida,Alabama,Iowa,Georgia Tech,Oregon,LSU,Texas or whoever would still win the NationalChampionship. One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
Posted: November 11th, 2009, 5:47 pm
by dolfan
ImaPK wrote:One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
The only way to have a true champion.
Posted: November 12th, 2009, 4:34 pm
by Rob
ImaPK wrote:For the sake of argument let's throw this hypothetical scenerio out...suppose that with the remaining schedules of all teams, that TCU and Boise State wind up as the only undefeated teams in the country and everyone else has two losses, what then? Would we have another "two loss LSU" as a National Champion? If one or the other goes to a BCS Bowl and wins while the other goes to a non-BCS Bowl and wins what then? Let's see...11-2 Florida,Alabama,Iowa,Georgia Tech,Oregon,LSU,Texas or whoever would still win the NationalChampionship. One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
In a perfect world a playoff would be the way to go. However, it sounds like from what I've heard the college presidents are not going to allow it.
To be honest I would not have a problem with TCU playing for a NC, but I would Boise St. Their schedule is a joke. However, we both know that Florida and Bama are not going to be two loss teams. Cincy has a great chance to run the table so we could end up with 4 undefeated teams. Which is going to create another out cry for a PLAYOFF
Posted: November 12th, 2009, 6:04 pm
by ImaPK
Pastor Rob wrote:ImaPK wrote:For the sake of argument let's throw this hypothetical scenerio out...suppose that with the remaining schedules of all teams, that TCU and Boise State wind up as the only undefeated teams in the country and everyone else has two losses, what then? Would we have another "two loss LSU" as a National Champion? If one or the other goes to a BCS Bowl and wins while the other goes to a non-BCS Bowl and wins what then? Let's see...11-2 Florida,Alabama,Iowa,Georgia Tech,Oregon,LSU,Texas or whoever would still win the NationalChampionship. One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
In a perfect world a playoff would be the way to go. However, it sounds like from what I've heard the college presidents are not going to allow it.
To be honest I would not have a problem with TCU playing for a NC, but I would Boise St. Their schedule is a joke. However, we both know that Florida and Bama are not going to be two loss teams. Cincy has a great chance to run the table so we could end up with 4 undefeated teams. Which is going to create another out cry for a PLAYOFF
LOL...now see, you didn't answer my question. What IF my scenerio DID happen?
Posted: November 13th, 2009, 9:28 am
by Rob
ImaPK wrote:Pastor Rob wrote:ImaPK wrote:For the sake of argument let's throw this hypothetical scenerio out...suppose that with the remaining schedules of all teams, that TCU and Boise State wind up as the only undefeated teams in the country and everyone else has two losses, what then? Would we have another "two loss LSU" as a National Champion? If one or the other goes to a BCS Bowl and wins while the other goes to a non-BCS Bowl and wins what then? Let's see...11-2 Florida,Alabama,Iowa,Georgia Tech,Oregon,LSU,Texas or whoever would still win the NationalChampionship. One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
In a perfect world a playoff would be the way to go. However, it sounds like from what I've heard the college presidents are not going to allow it.
To be honest I would not have a problem with TCU playing for a NC, but I would Boise St. Their schedule is a joke. However, we both know that Florida and Bama are not going to be two loss teams. Cincy has a great chance to run the table so we could end up with 4 undefeated teams. Which is going to create another out cry for a PLAYOFF
LOL...now see, you didn't answer my question. What IF my scenerio DID happen?
Okay IMaPK here's my answer to your question. After having watched the SEC games this year, there is no way the
OFFICIALS will let Bama and Florida lose once let alone twice. The Officiating in the SEC has been terrible. That was an interception in the LSU game but why have replay because the SEC can't get it right regardless of how many times they look at it.
Posted: November 13th, 2009, 10:23 am
by Pastorbps
I consider myself pretty impartial concerning the SEC. I agree, PastorRob, that was an interception which could have drastically changed the outcome of that game.
I've seen TCU play and a little of Cincinnati and Boise. I think Alabama, Florida, and Texas are better than all of them BUT it would be interesting to see the 3 small schools play the big boys. Boise is interesting. They can beat great teams IF the matchup is right. I would love to see them play Texas. They look a lot like Texas Tech and they gave Texas a fit this year and beat them last year. On the other hand, their style doesn't match well with Florida's speed so I think Florida would beat them handily. I don't know about Alabama. The Utah game from last year throws me off and Alabama doesn't really play that style of a team during the year. I think it would be a matter of whose style worked that day. Can Alabama pound it out or can Boise make it a run and gun game? That would decide it.
TCU is more of a control the ball team with a good defense. I just have trouble believing they could beat Texas or Alabama at their own game. On the other hand, it may be an interesting matchup for Florida. It also would turn into a battle of wills.
TCU beat Clemson at Clemson which is looking like a better win all the time. GaTech only beat Clemson by 3 at GaTech. TCU beat Clemson by 4 on Clemson's home field. I know this isn't perfect evidence but I do think it means TCU is very close to a GaTech and just slightly behind the big boys.
Cincinnati looks good to me on both sides of the ball. I would love to see them play one of the big 3. I think they have a better offense than Alabama but not as good a defense. They remind me a lot of Texas. Pretty good on both sides of the ball. I think Texas is a little better on both sides BUT I'm not sure their coach couldn't come up with a good game plan to beat Texas. Cincinnati looks like an interesting matchup for Florida simply because they are used to playing teams with the style of Florida.
These to me are the best 6 teams followed by GaTech and LSU.
Posted: November 13th, 2009, 4:46 pm
by ImaPK
Pastor Rob wrote:ImaPK wrote:Pastor Rob wrote:ImaPK wrote:For the sake of argument let's throw this hypothetical scenerio out...suppose that with the remaining schedules of all teams, that TCU and Boise State wind up as the only undefeated teams in the country and everyone else has two losses, what then? Would we have another "two loss LSU" as a National Champion? If one or the other goes to a BCS Bowl and wins while the other goes to a non-BCS Bowl and wins what then? Let's see...11-2 Florida,Alabama,Iowa,Georgia Tech,Oregon,LSU,Texas or whoever would still win the NationalChampionship. One word....PLAYOFF!!!!!!
In a perfect world a playoff would be the way to go. However, it sounds like from what I've heard the college presidents are not going to allow it.
To be honest I would not have a problem with TCU playing for a NC, but I would Boise St. Their schedule is a joke. However, we both know that Florida and Bama are not going to be two loss teams. Cincy has a great chance to run the table so we could end up with 4 undefeated teams. Which is going to create another out cry for a PLAYOFF
LOL...now see, you didn't answer my question. What IF my scenerio DID happen?
Okay IMaPK here's my answer to your question. After having watched the SEC games this year, there is no way the
OFFICIALS will let Bama and Florida lose once let alone twice. The Officiating in the SEC has been terrible. That was an interception in the LSU game but why have replay because the SEC can't get it right regardless of how many times they look at it.
I'll agree with you on the OFFICIALS, but I'm still waiting on an answer to my scenerio...LOL