Public plea to ban irthnvsl and related screen names

[RamboPreacher]

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For someone that says he has a pastors heart should see the insult to PG's post. I have nothing against anybody here I just feel there have been some really rude and insulting post lately. A pastor has to care for his sheep and it is not easy. A burden only a pastor can understand, well one shares his heart and was mocked for it. I think that is pretty low.
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yes, we do see them differently. you read that post a certain way, and with a certain bias. I read it differently. I don't necessarily agree with the way he posted, but not what he posted. as one with a pastor's heart, I love him, and care for him and if I was a pastor, and if he was in my church, I would still love him. you seem to be saying that I don't get it. Well, I do get it.

Can I explain it in text? not hardly, I have tried and folks like yourself only seem to see the text I post in a way that it wasn't intended, apparently because of the biases that are where your POV is coming from.

I would not elevate him to the status of one such as the reformer, Luther - but as an analogy; I use his example. sometimes we need a kick in the doctrine to get thinking in a different way. we are taught a certain thing and we are preached a certain way for years, and all of our lives.

when God shows more light on scripture and it isn't exactly what we were expecting, we tend to kick against the pricks, so to speak. I won't soak up all the Wright stuff, but I will not exclude a different point of view, just because it is not my own.

You don't know me. you know only of my text on this forum, and perhaps from other forums, blogs etc. that is not me. it is not even barely a reflection of me. at least I can say that I completely understand that when looking at you and when looking at the clay-jar.

I love you, and my prayers continue for you and others on this forum that do not request that I not pray for them. but you can NOT say, and you have no right to insinuate - whether or not I have a pastors heart. that was low. or did I misunderstand your text?

[Wes]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

[quote]

It's official. We are not the same person. Those 2 guys are much smarter than me anyway.

Thanks for clearing it up Pastor Ables.

[EagerBeaver]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

There is nothing to stop someone from buying two computers and linking them over a wireless network, thus giving them the same IP. Or for that matter, as many computers as they want to as long as they have access to the same network.

There is nothing to disprove that NT Wright Fan is not Irthnvsl. Shoot, just look at his typing style. Both of them call everyone brother so much you'd think they were black.

[Jennifer Smith]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

There is nothing to stop someone from buying two computers and linking them over a wireless network, thus giving them the same IP. Or for that matter, as many computers as they want to as long as they have access to the same network.

There is nothing to disprove that NT Wright Fan is not Irthnvsl. Shoot, just look at his typing style. Both of them call everyone brother so much you'd think they were black.

They use a LOT of the same lingo- "my brother from another mother", etc.
And they compliment one another quite lavishly. Have you noticed?

pa, sam and I can log in at the same time from our two computers, we have it networked. In fact, I could run downstairs and post as him almost simultaneously, and you'd never know! Except that my words and personality are different from my husband's.

[Brian]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

Even if that is the case pastorables these bunch of court jesters are a real pain in the neck! Sure we can all use a little humor in our lives and I certainly have been known to be a little high strung every now and then. But these few guys push the envelope just far enough..........then pull back and spin around and do a little dance.........all in the name of "hey man I was just yanking your chain/having some fun."
Do we really need that type of fun? I'm not gonna say ban the guys but man, please, come off it guys.

[pastorables]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

Even if that is the case pastorables these bunch of court jesters are a real pain in the neck! Sure we can all use a little humor in our lives and I certainly have been known to be a little high strung every now and then. But these few guys push the envelope just far enough..........

Only speaking for myself, I stay stressed out to the point most of the time that the lightheartedness actually is somewhat entertaining at times. Do I agree with all the beliefs? No. Could some posts be less rude and more courteous? Yes. By the same, I enjoy the break up in monotony. It's a testimony to Jude2 as a free country.

[sweetpea]

I'm believing NT Wright fan is his brother and maybe gave him a kidney transplant.

I think he is just having a little fun,but maybe it has gone on to far.I don't know him but I really thought,he was also Dr N T Wright and Wes,he changed NT Wright to NT Wright fan,and i know one of his post seemed to me that he was referring to the kidney transplant he had .He told me he had one three years ago in the doctrine forum.

[Wes]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

There is nothing to stop someone from buying two computers and linking them over a wireless network, thus giving them the same IP. Or for that matter, as many computers as they want to as long as they have access to the same network.

There is nothing to disprove that NT Wright Fan is not Irthnvsl. Shoot, just look at his typing style. Both of them call everyone brother so much you'd think they were black.

They use a LOT of the same lingo- "my brother from another mother", etc.
And they compliment one another quite lavishly. Have you noticed?

pa, sam and I can log in at the same time from our two computers, we have it networked. In fact, I could run downstairs and post as him almost simultaneously, and you'd never know! Except that my words and personality are different from my husband's.

We work together all day long every day. I'm sure we're gonna use the same lingo. That doesn't prove anything. Don't be so paranoid. We probably know what the other one is thinking. We spend alot of time together. I would take a bullet for either of these two men. I mean that.

[sweetpea]

Correction on my last post.He did not have the kidney transplant in the doctrine forum,but he told me about it over in the forum. See most entertaining person for this reference from N T Wright fan,last post.

I don't think he means any harm,but maybe he needs to just slow it down a little bit.Maybe he has already talked to Mike through a PM.

[paul]

Amazing how we all can gang up on someone. EGBeav you mentioned slander. God knows what all I have been called by a certain one. I would never even entertain the notion of asking that person to be banned.

If you don't like what he or they say don't go there. I am still trying to figure out why Karen and Mike were banned. I felt the reasonings were childish. they did ot hurt anyone. I read some of their post but for the most park ignored them.

If we are family and a real community as has been put forth, then lets act like one even with our starnge annoying aunts and uncles and the black sheeps that we wish would stay out of sight.

[EagerBeaver]

Amazing how we all can gang up on someone. EGBeav you mentioned slander. God knows what all I have been called by a certain one. I would never even entertain the notion of asking that person to be banned.

If you don't like what he or they say don't go there. I am still trying to figure out why Karen and Mike were banned. I felt the reasonings were childish. they did ot hurt anyone. I read some of their post but for the most park ignored them.

If we are family and a real community as has been put forth, then lets act like one even with our starnge annoying aunts and uncles and the black sheeps that we wish would stay out of sight.

This is not ganging up on anyone.

This is asking for the removal of a cancer, of a poison to our community and an antagonistic accuser of the brethren.

Gerald has never tried to monopolize the board and make it all about him using alter egos, ridiculous posts, and beating down everyone's faith. Irthnvsl has and it is grating to more than a few of us here.

Irthnvsl is also trolling and flaming this board with his conversations with "NT Wright Fan" and "Wes." If NT and Wes are legit people they would know what they are doing is pretty much aiding and abetting Irthnvsl in his attempt to flame this board.

So my public call to NT and Wes is if you're legit, cut it out and post some real stuff, and stop praising Irthnvsl at every turn.

The man must be banned.

[one love]

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For someone that says he has a pastors heart should see the insult to PG's post. I have nothing against anybody here I just feel there have been some really rude and insulting post lately. A pastor has to care for his sheep and it is not easy. A burden only a pastor can understand, well one shares his heart and was mocked for it. I think that is pretty low.
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yes, we do see them differently. you read that post a certain way, and with a certain bias. I read it differently. I don't necessarily agree with the way he posted, but not what he posted. as one with a pastor's heart, I love him, and care for him and if I was a pastor, and if he was in my church, I would still love him. you seem to be saying that I don't get it. Well, I do get it.

Can I explain it in text? not hardly, I have tried and folks like yourself only seem to see the text I post in a way that it wasn't intended, apparently because of the biases that are where your POV is coming from.

I would not elevate him to the status of one such as the reformer, Luther - but as an analogy; I use his example. sometimes we need a kick in the doctrine to get thinking in a different way. we are taught a certain thing and we are preached a certain way for years, and all of our lives.

when God shows more light on scripture and it isn't exactly what we were expecting, we tend to kick against the pricks, so to speak. I won't soak up all the Wright stuff, but I will not exclude a different point of view, just because it is not my own.

You don't know me. you know only of my text on this forum, and perhaps from other forums, blogs etc. that is not me. it is not even barely a reflection of me. at least I can say that I completely understand that when looking at you and when looking at the clay-jar.

I love you, and my prayers continue for you and others on this forum that do not request that I not pray for them. but you can NOT say, and you have no right to insinuate - whether or not I have a pastors heart. that was low. or did I misunderstand your text?

First of all you took my post WAY out of context!!! I also said I have nothing against him and that I LOVE HIM. You throw that in there as if I did not.
Second I was not insulting you but rather implying if you had a pastors heart you should understand how that could be a hurtful post. Making light and sarcasm out of a pastors thoughts is insulting, NOT the one pointing out the insult.

Bias?????? What Bias???? I have not posted at all regarding these things until now and simply said that I felt some of these post have been insulting. I also gave reasons why. I also said that I have nothing against him and Love him but I know how hard pastoring can be.

I never took a shot at you Rambo I was stating that you say you have a pastors heart, well then you should be able to see why others felt that post was a mockery of PG's feelings. Simply put

You are correct we can not know one another to well online but we can understand one's personality. With that said i feel I do know you unless you post one way and live another J/K

[Shellie]

The lynch mobs didn't work well in Salem, nor in Birmingham.

Just about everyone of us on here has one or several that do not "care for us."

Let it go. If you don't like it, PM Pastor Gary and/or me and we will discuss it. I do not like this us against them mentality. Perhaps this observation is an occupational hazard, but this reminds me of the socially inept child being encircled on the playground by the "together" kids and being mocked and I don't like it.

[one love]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

There is nothing to stop someone from buying two computers and linking them over a wireless network, thus giving them the same IP. Or for that matter, as many computers as they want to as long as they have access to the same network.

There is nothing to disprove that NT Wright Fan is not Irthnvsl. Shoot, just look at his typing style. Both of them call everyone brother so much you'd think they were black.

They use a LOT of the same lingo- "my brother from another mother", etc.
And they compliment one another quite lavishly. Have you noticed?

pa, sam and I can log in at the same time from our two computers, we have it networked. In fact, I could run downstairs and post as him almost simultaneously, and you'd never know! Except that my words and personality are different from my husband's.

Maybe it is a play on words and they really are " a brother from another motha" I dont know. I know as moderator that the IP's can easily show who is who.
I am very confused that in one post they are claiming that someone stole his IP address and that is why and in another they say they all work together....
Either way I am bothered by the response to Pastor Garys post, that is what bothers me. Also the post to Jennifer, again someone telling their heart and mocked for it.

I cant nor would say BAN him it is not my board but I am really confused now why Karen was banned etc........... But I need no explanation again I understood PG's hurt and felt it was a time to pray with him, not ridicule him or slam him due to some freedom to drink. My opinion and I am not against any of these guys/guy I am welcoming of everyone....
So God bless

[N.T. Wright Fan]

My reference to Irthnvesl's playing a joke was to his claim that Mike had "hacked" his web site and "stolen" his IP address (which, to me, seemed obviously in jest).