How dare they ask Obama a question

[Tim Elston]

I don't mean that his performance shouldn't be judged.

What a concept! I thought that went out eight years ago. Something tells me it's not taboo anymore.

[Dr. Ron]

Tim,
Man I really do love you....but you make it so difficult for some of us to really connect with you.

I have been on this board for several years and a couple of thousand posts....I have never seen Bush given a pass when he messed up....I have seen and have asked personally that the facts not be skewed, but give us a break. We are not all cool-aide drinking Republican who don't know from straight up.

Look, I gave Bush down the road for his failure to motivate the Republican congress to get things done .....like reverse Roe v Wade. I ate his lunch for his stand on closing the border. He disappointed me for not getting the Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac mess fixed when he could very well have done that. He made many mistakes. The war in Iraq was not one of them. Read some "unbiased" accounts and you will reach that same understanding.

He got lots of guff from many of us......but hell will have popsicles before I give this baby killer a break. He is a dufus in the highest order. He really believes his own press. Every thing he has done so far he acts like he is still campaigning....which is all he has ever really done.

I disagree with you and him on Gitmo. Do I believe in torture? No....I actually believe that we should go strictly by the Geneva Convention rules. But to turn those guys back to their homelands is to have to hunt them down and kill them....They have no rights to a civil court, They are combatants in a war. They should be tried by courts martial.

As for the man in the White HOuse........he will be what he will be....and usually that is what he has always been......not much.

[MacUser]

He disappointed me for not getting the Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac mess fixed when he could very well have done that. He made many mistakes. The war in Iraq was not one of them. Read some

Ahem.. Bush tried over 12 times to get this done and the Democrats in congress and senate.. nuked this each and every time. Barney FRANK, Chris DODD and Barrack OBAMA.

( These were the key elements that set off imho the economy bomb.. 40 days out from an election. Manipulated for such an outcome and this mess that has resulted )


Tons of sources to show and have been shown herer.. but proceed.

[Dr. Ron]

Mac....you are right....but I was making the point (poorly) that the things he might could have fixed .....and was unable to .....haunt him. He did have a republican controled congress and couldn't motivate them to vote with him in some of those very issues.

History will judge him as one of our greatest presidents. I will always be thankful he was on the job after 9/11 and not Gore....