TCOG Assembly Webcast

[RaceRunner]

It's called a good sense of humor, sanctification and the art of conversation. Ha

It amazes me how these sanctified folks still manage to gossip not only by phone but in the halls of the Assembly.

Race Runner, if you guys aren't concerned about the criticism then why not webcast your business sessions? In fact I have not heard a word about the business yet. Also why are the pastors and overseers telling the members to stay off forums? My guess is that the VLB service will be removed from the archives.

Well, I'm sanctified and I wasn't on the phone (don't carry one) or in the halls gossiping. Were you?? :) Sorry I missed you.

The reports that I heard was that the business went along in a most dignified, quiet and Godly manner. Some things discussed, nothing new passed I guess. Really wasn't a topic of much discussion. Never heard anybody discussing it until I asked some people how it went and they said "great". I attend church with my overseer and he hasn't said a thing. He's Bro. Rob Hawkins and we're absolutely proud of him.

Why would the VLB service be removed?? We absolutely loved every minute of it. I am currently watching the exact broadcast myself right now. I won't apologise for a thing. I watched God perform many miracles on that floor that night, one especially for me. He answered my prayer, exactly at the same time I prayed it. Amazing!

I can see that The microphones certainly did NOT do justice to the singers and choirs. In person, the worship music was absolutely amazing, but you can't hear the whole choir and the audience at all. The mic's did not even do the lead singers justice. They were beautiful in person. It's unfortunate you couldn't hear it that well online, but this was our first time for a broadcast, so I'm sure experience and better sound system would do wonders.

Be happy...don't worry....if you do...you'll just get an ulcer

[n2jesus]

All the business passed with exception of the General Overseer being able to resign...It's going to be studied for another year...No big secrets or problems...Just men trying to do good business....I am sure the business will be in the Evening Light's next edition...I didn't keep my copy, but I am sure there are copies out there somewhere that can be posted...

[Brian]

I don't know about some of you, but we have have a father, He's call the "All Mighty, Holy and Righteous God.

Its really hard for me to understand how some of you will speak of love out of one side of you mouth and then from the other side comes some of the most hateful things..........

He is also my Father, and He is there father, and his father, and her Father as well. Thing is, I think sometimes you and folks like you forget that.

And you wanna talk about hateful and offensive? I have heard some of the most hateful and offensive things I have ever heard from those same "righteous" men.
It comes across subtle. It comes across as simple statements of faith. You know what I mean. Something as simple as claiming "103rd General Assembly" The implication is as clear as a bell. TCOG is claiming at least 103 years of obedience to theocratic government all the while implying that anyone outside of there group isn't "the same" bible church. THAT MY FRIEND is blatant out and out offensive to other BLOOD BOUGHT believers!
The list can go on and on.....with statements like "we are the Bride and you are the guest". Again, in your face offensiveness.
"In 1990, the Church of God of Prophecy departed from theocratic government. Through the Holy Ghost, God called for a Solemn Assembly to be held July 23-25, 1993. On July 24th, the Holy Ghost gave direction to separate ourselves from the apostasy of the past three years, and to continue truly as The Church of God, clearly designating Robert J. Pruitt as the General Overseer. The Church of God thus returned to the true theocracy.

This constituted not a new organization, but the reorganization of The Church of God as the true theocracy of God, the exclusive Body of Christ:"

That quote was straight off of TCOG's web page. there are no two ways about it friend. Your denomination says plainly and clearly that THEY ALONE are follow God's plan for His church. More hateful and offensive things can be said along those same lines but it really wouldn't matter. We all know what has been said over the years and done over the years. Lets not insult each other with double talk about who is the real body pushing hate and discord. Anyone with half and brain can read for themselves and see whats been said and continues to be said.

It is not I who see's TCOG as separate or inferior. If Christ is the Lord and Head of your life then we are brothers and sisters in Him,.....equal heirs to the thrown of grace. Can you say the same about those not in your group?

[one love]

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[Full Quiver]

Oletimer, from what I've seen on other sites you don't step up and take responsibility for your own offensive language. Imagine that!

Race Runner, based on this quote

The reports that I heard was that the business went along in a most dignified, quiet and Godly manner. Some things discussed, nothing new passed I guess. Really wasn't a topic of much discussion. Never heard anybody discussing it until I asked some people how it went and they said "great".

I have to wonder why you even attended the Assembly. A good and faithful woman in TCoG would have been on her face praying for the men as they did business for the Lord's church. From what I read here you weren't even in the room nor knew what was being discussed.


Let me once again say as I did in a previous post. Rob Hawkins is a real nice guy. I believe he is genuine but is caught up in the same spirit I once was and no one, not even himself will ever live up to his own legalism especially Race Runner. Rob is in no way a hick though.

[EagerBeaver]

I don't know about some of you, but we have have a father, He's call the "All Mighty, Holy and Righteous God.

Its really hard for me to understand how some of you will speak of love out of one side of you mouth and then from the other side comes some of the most hateful things..........

He is also my Father, and He is there father, and his father, and her Father as well. Thing is, I think sometimes you and folks like you forget that.

And you wanna talk about hateful and offensive? I have heard some of the most hateful and offensive things I have ever heard from those same "righteous" men.
It comes across subtle. It comes across as simple statements of faith. You know what I mean. Something as simple as claiming "103rd General Assembly" The implication is as clear as a bell. TCOG is claiming at least 103 years of obedience to theocratic government all the while implying that anyone outside of there group isn't "the same" bible church. THAT MY FRIEND is blatant out and out offensive to other BLOOD BOUGHT believers!
The list can go on and on.....with statements like "we are the Bride and you are the guest". Again, in your face offensiveness.
"In 1990, the Church of God of Prophecy departed from theocratic government. Through the Holy Ghost, God called for a Solemn Assembly to be held July 23-25, 1993. On July 24th, the Holy Ghost gave direction to separate ourselves from the apostasy of the past three years, and to continue truly as The Church of God, clearly designating Robert J. Pruitt as the General Overseer. The Church of God thus returned to the true theocracy.

This constituted not a new organization, but the reorganization of The Church of God as the true theocracy of God, the exclusive Body of Christ:"

That quote was straight off of TCOG's web page. there are no two ways about it friend. Your denomination says plainly and clearly that THEY ALONE are follow God's plan for His church. More hateful and offensive things can be said along those same lines but it really wouldn't matter. We all know what has been said over the years and done over the years. Lets not insult each other with double talk about who is the real body pushing hate and discord. Anyone with half and brain can read for themselves and see whats been said and continues to be said.

It is not I who see's TCOG as separate or inferior. If Christ is the Lord and Head of your life then we are brothers and sisters in Him,.....equal heirs to the thrown of grace. Can you say the same about those not in your group?

If I ever see you in person I am buying you a steak dinner Brian. This was excellent.

[Brian]

I don't know about some of you, but we have have a father, He's call the "All Mighty, Holy and Righteous God.

Its really hard for me to understand how some of you will speak of love out of one side of you mouth and then from the other side comes some of the most hateful things..........

He is also my Father, and He is there father, and his father, and her Father as well. Thing is, I think sometimes you and folks like you forget that.

And you wanna talk about hateful and offensive? I have heard some of the most hateful and offensive things I have ever heard from those same "righteous" men.
It comes across subtle. It comes across as simple statements of faith. You know what I mean. Something as simple as claiming "103rd General Assembly" The implication is as clear as a bell. TCOG is claiming at least 103 years of obedience to theocratic government all the while implying that anyone outside of there group isn't "the same" bible church. THAT MY FRIEND is blatant out and out offensive to other BLOOD BOUGHT believers!
The list can go on and on.....with statements like "we are the Bride and you are the guest". Again, in your face offensiveness.
"In 1990, the Church of God of Prophecy departed from theocratic government. Through the Holy Ghost, God called for a Solemn Assembly to be held July 23-25, 1993. On July 24th, the Holy Ghost gave direction to separate ourselves from the apostasy of the past three years, and to continue truly as The Church of God, clearly designating Robert J. Pruitt as the General Overseer. The Church of God thus returned to the true theocracy.

This constituted not a new organization, but the reorganization of The Church of God as the true theocracy of God, the exclusive Body of Christ:"

That quote was straight off of TCOG's web page. there are no two ways about it friend. Your denomination says plainly and clearly that THEY ALONE are follow God's plan for His church. More hateful and offensive things can be said along those same lines but it really wouldn't matter. We all know what has been said over the years and done over the years. Lets not insult each other with double talk about who is the real body pushing hate and discord. Anyone with half and brain can read for themselves and see whats been said and continues to be said.

It is not I who see's TCOG as separate or inferior. If Christ is the Lord and Head of your life then we are brothers and sisters in Him,.....equal heirs to the thrown of grace. Can you say the same about those not in your group?

It may be a bit weird for me to post a reply to myself......but here we are.

A person, no, a brother I am beginning to think of as a friend just sent me a PM and it quickly shown a light on my words and made see that I spoke in haste and with too much emotion. This isn't the first time I have done this but I pray it will be one of the last.

I stand by the content of of my post but surely my words could have been chosen with more maturity and wisdom.

May the God of heaven heal all our hearts and wounds in these matters. May He fill our hearts with grace and forgiveness and join us together in love.

[Jennifer Smith]

It's like a train wreck or a bad reality show: People are mesmerized at how bad religion can be.

With as much as you and others must have went through I think it might be better to turn your neck in the other direction...

I didn't watch the webcast so I don't offer any comment, and I don't mean that as a slight... I hope and pray God heals everyone's heart, just like Brian prayed.
I also agreed with what Wendy said about grace... and I try to keep my focus on the Lord in the midst of controversy.
God is good.

[Pastor Gary]

If you think that was funny you have a sick sense of humor and mocking like that i don't think you will feel the anointing

I have not seen the video, so my comment is merely about this response: what was (apparently) being mocked was not spiritual anointing, but the odd speech affectation adopted by some pentecostal preachers in which they say a few syllables, inject an audible "HA" sound and then say some more... it is just a learned behavior erroneously acquainted with anointing, and it is to most people very odd.

[RaceRunner]

I have to wonder why you even attended the Assembly. A good and faithful woman in TCoG would have been on her face praying for the men as they did business for the Lord's church. From what I read here you weren't even in the room nor knew what was being discussed.

Actually, We were travelling on the interstate, going TO the Assembly at the exact time of business. We were unable to get off work until Friday morning, so no...we were not able to be in the room when the business was conducted. However, were praying for our men as they conducted business....it seems that car travel is quite condusive to quiet prayer.

When we finally arrived, we were greeted by a joyous and unity filled fellowship. We asked how all went....was told what was passed or not passed. We have a copy of the business and it seemed to all go smoothly from my veiwpoint as a woman. My husband is perfectly capable of handling and conducting the business. AND I'm perfectly happy and content to pray for him and them.

...A good and faithful woman in TCoG...

Thanks for the compliment. I do strive to be a good and faithful woman in The Church of God. I wish to be a good example unto the Believers. Hopefully I succeed...and I'm sure someone would be willing to point out my failures ....but I do have an advocate that I can go to, to help me overcome my faults and failings.

I've learned a lot throughout my lifetime. My successes and especially my failures have taught me great lessons. I watched people, pastors, overseers and close friends come and go. I've tried to stay in contact with them and keep the friendship fires burning. Through it all, my desire is to stay True, be/become Holy, grow unto Righteousness, and be Faithful unto the Lord.

I'm not a type A personality....I don't get an adrenaline rush through controversy, nor do I enjoy contention. ( I do however enjoy a little sense of humor and a little conversational wit at times

I just desire to feel the presence of the Lord in my life every day and just want to serve the Lord. I desire to not allow anything in my life to hinder the free flow of the Spirit. If I am a possessor of anything that does hinder the Spirit, I am fully confident that the Holy Ghost is perfectly capable of revealing such things to me and give me the Grace to overcome them.

Here is my prayer for me and you....(I'll leave out the "Youth" part ...cus we're no longer considered "young"....Ha!)

1Ti 4:12a-16 ....but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee....Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

The VERY BEST thing we can ALL be is a Great Example!

Ya'll have a great Day!

Tammy Washburn

[c u there]

Yes, Sis Tammy the business did go very well. I was there and I was praying for our men. There was a meek humble beautiful spirit exhibited by all. Yes an the one part about the resignation of the GO there were a few that didn't submit, but no one was ugly all had a good spirit, it seemed the wording of it confused or concerned some so Bro Smith tabled it for the committee to work on some more and invited any or all of these brethen to talk to the committee about their concerns and even give suggestions. Alittle off subject but the only problem I know of the whole time was the way to slanted slick floor was very hard on some of us ladies, it was funny by the end you could see ladies dressed very pretty and look down and see tennis shoes, so you see we overcame. God Bless, Wanda Borden

[Brian]

I took out your name Tammy because I changed your words a bit and didn't want to speak "for you" but I wanted to use some of your words because they are exactly how I feel, and I am quite sure others believe and feel the very same way! I don't want to be disrespectful in any way whatsoever. I simply want to convey that there are thousands, no millions, of blood bought, Christ following believers who feel and profess the exact same thing that you have said here.

I do strive to be a good and faithful person in the church of God. I wish to be a good example unto the Believers. Hopefully I will succeed.......but I do have an advocate that I can go to, to help me overcome my faults and failings.

I've learned a lot throughout my lifetime. My successes and especially my failures have taught me great lessons. I watched people, pastors, overseers and close friends come and go. I've tried to stay in contact with them and keep the friendship fires burning. Through it all, my desire is to stay True, be/become Holy, grow unto Righteousness, and be Faithful unto the Lord.

I just desire to feel the presence of the Lord in my life every day and just want to serve the Lord. I desire to not allow anything in my life to hinder the free flow of the Spirit. If I am a possessor of anything that does hinder the Spirit, I am fully confident that the Holy Ghost is perfectly capable of revealing such things to me and give me the Grace to overcome them.

1Ti 4:12-16 ....but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Neglect not the gift that is in thee....Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

The VERY BEST thing we can ALL be is a Great Example!

Those words, those ideas, those beliefs are not unique to The Church of God (as an organization). They are felt and held by many believers in many different churches of God.

God bless you

[RaceRunner]

I simply want to convey that there are thousands, no millions, of blood bought, Christ following believers who feel and profess the exact same thing that you have said here.........Those words, those ideas, those beliefs are not unique to The Church of God...

Brian,
I have always completely agreed with this statement. No arguement here. And believe it or not (contrary to popular belief).....The Church of God does too.

To all:
Ya'll go watch the Cogop Assembly now I'm sure they have better equipment & sound, better broadcasting capabilities and a more experienced, full time webcast staff. I'm sure ya'll will find it much more enjoyable.

Our Assembly is over and a new year has begun. May everyone endeavor to spread the Gospel in their respective fields of labor.

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 2Co 5:10, 11

[Full Quiver]

If it had been all that important to you and Danny you should have been there. I know it is not because you weren't.

So since not being there means one felt the business was not important then I must conclude that any and all TCOG men and women for that matter that were not present did not deem it important.

Yes an the one part about the resignation of the GO there were a few that didn't submit, but no one was ugly all had a good spirit, it seemed the wording of it confused or concerned some so Bro Smith tabled it for the committee to work on some more and invited any or all of these brethen to talk to the committee about their concerns and even give suggestions. A side note for Danny also known as full quiver and hecallsmefriend, the business lasted right at 2 hours, you were so concerned that the program only allowed 30 minutes, no one was rushed and no one left out. We didn't have a lot of time to go eat and get back but I heard no complaining.
Alittle off subject but the only problem I know of the whole time was the way to slanted slick floor was very hard on some of us ladies, it was funny by the end you could see ladies dressed very pretty and look down and see tennis shoes, so you see we overcame. God Bless, Wanda Borden

Excuse me, do I know you? Do you know me? Yes I am Fullquiver and FQ. Don't call me by other peeps names though.

Your post brings up another point.

Yes an the one part about the resignation of the GO there were a few that didn't submit,

This implies that those few were wrong and in a bad spirit or rebelled. Maybe they were right. That term submit is really a joke considering that you say you practice unanimous agreement. If one or 20 don't agree and they are convinced to submit then the ruling is not unanimous. 1 or 20 go home feeling bullied or denied their opinion which may very well be more than an opinion (revelation).

I personally believe the piece should have passed and since it didn't it is basically a slap in the face to Bishop Pruitt who did resign. By not passing this these men have said Bishop Pruitt did not have the right to resign.

[c u there]

Yes, we know each other, not personally but through the forums and we know some of your family, I signed my name I don't try to hide. Does this help I'm Oletimerzwife. (you know Oletimer the one you think so highly of) And you chose who you wanted to be called not I, other peep?
I said no was was in a bad spirit and no one meant any disrespect to Bro Pruitt, just had questions about some of the wording so it was tabled, which is very different than not passing. Some were asked to submit and didn't feel they could we went to prayer came back a few still didn't feel they could submit as it was worded so all was done in love and Bro Smith decided to table. No one seemed upset at anyone. A very good spirit by all. I think they are getting the business session ready for viewing and you can see for yourself and maybe understand it better. God Bless