So What should I do?

[Pastor Bill]

Gerald, personally you know we pretty much agree on these things, but if you were at my church and disagreed with me on basic beliefs like this, I would want you to talk to me about it. One of us might find truth that we did not see, or it might not change either of our feelings about it, but we could either get to a place where we could agree to disagree, or we could know it was time to part ways in our ministries, but bottling it up and getting more and more frustrated with it isn't helping you, and it means if it does come out, you are less likely to handle it well as it has built up to a boil.

I am not sure which church you go to, but probably know your pastor. I can say I've seen some influence in a few in the CoGoP, but as many have said on here, for most of us in our local churches and even in our state, this type of thing is hardly being seen. If talking to your pastor doesn't seem to be enough, call the SO, Scott is easy to talk to, and from the times I have heard him preach, I don't think he'd disagree with you on these principles. I don't know if these are just overly stressed in your church (not typical of what I've seen across the state) or if it's just a topic that's a sore spot for you, but this is not typical of what we are seeing.

Worse case you may just have to move a little farther South-East!

[Gerald Creasy]

You have a general disrespect for humanity. That kind of leaves you to yourself. You have ZERO respect for any authority. That's more than just not following the Jim Jones of the world. It is a serious but all too common defiecency in the Body of Christ, today. It is more of a problem than any TV evangelist, in the world.

If you were involved you might know, but you would rather play Gerald know best. Tell the truth, you could father better than your father, mother better than your mother, pastor better than your pastor, oversee better than your overseer, you are simply one amazing individual.

You can iterpret scripture better than Assembly committee, establish doctrine and discern false doctrine and prophets better than all of us combined. I am in awe.

Isn't it amazing that you stoop to lower levels of character assasination, than the "methods" I use to Out False Teachers?

But I understand. THATS standard operation procedure for Some ministers: Assault those who wish responsibility and accountability where none exist.

[scooter]

Isn't it amazing that you stoop to lower levels of character assasination, than the "methods" I use to Out False Teachers?

But I understand. THATS standard operation procedure for Some ministers: Assault those who wish responsibility and accountability where none exist.

Response: How about rather bursting the ego of the self appointed accounter.

You belittle every believer on the board, saying "Gees What have you all been doing" regarding your absence. Where were you?

You act as if you function as the sole source of accountablity for the church world wide, like your message isn't the same as every two bit attack the TV ministers to make a name for myself, 20/20, 60 minutes 9/11 conspitacy style web site.

For a person who has made attacking ministries and ministers your ministry I shouldn't be surprised that you would too undercut your own pastor, brother or anyone else for that matter in your effort to be the supreme arbiter of rightness in the name of Jesus of course.

No stooping, assault, character assasination here, feet firmly planted on the ground. Just the facts.

[Gerald Creasy]

Response: How about rather bursting the ego of the self appointed accounter.

You belittle every believer on the board, saying "Gees What have you all been doing" regarding your absence. Where were you?

You act as if you function as the sole source of accountablity for the church world wide, like your message isn't the same as every two bit attack the TV ministers to make a name for myself, 20/20, 60 minutes 9/11 conspitacy style web site.

For a person who has made attacking ministries and ministers your ministry I shouldn't be surprised that you would too undercut your own pastor, brother or anyone else for that matter in your effort to be the supreme arbiter of rightness in the name of Jesus of course.

No stooping, assualt, character assasination here, feet firmly planted on the ground. Just the facts.

No hardly the facts at all.

I try to get some progress among a group of Pentecostals who could care less.

The offer excuses, pretend I assault a true minister of God, or believe I am worse than the ones I dercry. They sit around while preachers preach Jesus wasnt God ACTUALLY EXPECTING a miracle.

They preach against SIN UNLESS the sin is one of their own. Then it's lazy excuses "Well he names Jesus as savior."

They don't care that the Face of Pentecostalism that the world sees is one of nuts, crack pots and wierdos who define God ANY WAY THEY WISH.

The fact that the world sees them as T D Jakes or Hinn is a non-issue or childish.

I recently began listening to a Non-pentecostal Church Historian chronicle the history of Pentecostalism tracing it all the way from the Puritans onward. You know how he began his lecture? "If you come here to get your legs lengthed or to get rich, today, you've misunderstood the purpose" There again: The Face of Pentecostalism.


Dosent things like that bother you? That you are typified by fellow Christians as shyters and money grubbers??? Because that is what the world sees????

I can not NOT care.

I do not care how much YOU Demonize me. You are wrong and do not fully know what you think you know.

[scooter]

Response: How about rather bursting the ego of the self appointed accounter.

You belittle every believer on the board, saying "Gees What have you all been doing" regarding your absence. Where were you?

You act as if you function as the sole source of accountablity for the church world wide, like your message isn't the same as every two bit attack the TV ministers to make a name for myself, 20/20, 60 minutes 9/11 conspitacy style web site.

For a person who has made attacking ministries and ministers your ministry I shouldn't be surprised that you would too undercut your own pastor, brother or anyone else for that matter in your effort to be the supreme arbiter of rightness in the name of Jesus of course.

No stooping, assualt, character assasination here, feet firmly planted on the ground. Just the facts.

No hardly the facts at all.

I try to get some progress among a group of Pentecostals who could care less.

The offer excuses, pretend I assault a true minister of God, or believe I am worse than the ones I dercry. They sit around while preachers preach Jesus wasnt God ACTUALLY EXPECTING a miracle.

They preach against SIN UNLESS the sin is one of their own. Then it's lazy excuses "Well he names Jesus as savior."

They don't care that the Face of Pentecostalism that the world sees is one of nuts, crack pots and wierdos who define God ANY WAY THEY WISH.

The fact that the world sees them as T D Jakes or Hinn is a non-issue or childish.

I recently began listening to a Non-pentecostal Church Historian chronicle the history of Pentecostalism tracing it all the way from the Puritans onward. You know how he began his lecture? "If you come here to get your legs lengthed or to get rich, today, you've misunderstood the purpose" There again: The Face of Pentecostalism.


Dosent things like that bother you? That you are typified by fellow Christians as shyters and money grubbers??? Because that is what the world sees????

I can not NOT care.

I do not care how much YOU Demonize me. You are wrong and do not fully know what you think you know.

Response: Oh okay.

[JustJay]

Yall must be family..

[Shellie]

Yall must be family..

By blood only.

[stevenson]

I agree with scooter! Drive the Bus, then get lost on the way there! Get it? After missing 4 or 5 events they'll either get the hint or think you don't know how to read a map. LOL!

[Pastor Gary]

Yall must be family..

By blood only.

I suspect there has been some of that along the way. (See: Cain and Abel)