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[paul]

With that being said, we need to start training up our youth from the time they feel they have a calling upon their lives. Called to do music ministry? Let them play in the worship band to test it out. Called to youth ministry? Let them serve on a youth leadership team under the guidance of the youth pastor.

Well, so far, so good. (WHEW!) When Tori was 16 she formed her first worship band, and we immediately put them up front of the main church service. Best way to get experienced is to experience the real deal.

Currently we have added a 16 year old lead guitarist, and he rocks.

I think when people are first starting out and their calling from the Lord has been confirmed, they need a steadying hand on their shoulder. As they mature mentally and spiritually over time guidance is still needed but in more of an advisory capacity.

2 for 2. Certainly trying to do that one right, also.

I appreciate your input.

Tonight I had the opportunity to share with the youth group of our church. The director left for the Philippines last night with my son to lay out our June trip.

I'll not re-preach what I said, but I think some things might fit this question.

My goal tonight was to help instill in them the understading of purpose. Our youth have passion, desire, and so often because they seem to have little if any sense of purpose the enemy preverts the passion into the lust and cares of this world.

In working with so many youth and young people entering ministry around the world. What I notice the most is the vast difference of their understanding of what their purpose in life is.

When Jesus spoke to Paul on the road to Damascas he told Paul " for this purpose I've called you. Paul would tell Timothy " is their not a cause ?"

I Cor 4 Paul tells them that they have many teachers but few Fathers. He saw himself as a Father to them. One who cares, loves, provides, instructs, chastises, disciples and one who helps facilitates them to find the purpose of their life.

IMHO I believe this is the greatest area lacking in our churches today. As a leader in the Body of Christ and my understanding of equipping the saints as my work, this is one of my key roles " A Faciliator " The question I constantly ask when working with young men going into ministry, What can I do to help them find their true purpose and faciliate them into walking in it. It goes beyond being a Mentor, or an example, it is being a Father to them.

[EagerBeaver]

With that being said, we need to start training up our youth from the time they feel they have a calling upon their lives. Called to do music ministry? Let them play in the worship band to test it out. Called to youth ministry? Let them serve on a youth leadership team under the guidance of the youth pastor.

Well, so far, so good. (WHEW!) When Tori was 16 she formed her first worship band, and we immediately put them up front of the main church service. Best way to get experienced is to experience the real deal.

Currently we have added a 16 year old lead guitarist, and he rocks.

I think when people are first starting out and their calling from the Lord has been confirmed, they need a steadying hand on their shoulder. As they mature mentally and spiritually over time guidance is still needed but in more of an advisory capacity.

2 for 2. Certainly trying to do that one right, also.

I appreciate your input.

Tonight I had the opportunity to share with the youth group of our church. The director left for the Philippines last night with my son to lay out our June trip.

I'll not re-preach what I said, but I think some things might fit this question.

My goal tonight was to help instill in them the understading of purpose. Our youth have passion, desire, and so often because they seem to have little if any sense of purpose the enemy preverts the passion into the lust and cares of this world.

In working with so many youth and young people entering ministry around the world. What I notice the most is the vast difference of their understanding of what their purpose in life is.

When Jesus spoke to Paul on the road to Damascas he told Paul " for this purpose I've called you. Paul would tell Timothy " is their not a cause ?"

I Cor 4 Paul tells them that they have many teachers but few Fathers. He saw himself as a Father to them. One who cares, loves, provides, instructs, chastises, disciples and one who helps facilitates them to find the purpose of their life.

IMHO I believe this is the greatest area lacking in our churches today. As a leader in the Body of Christ and my understanding of equipping the saints as my work, this is one of my key roles " A Faciliator " The question I constantly ask when working with young men going into ministry, What can I do to help them find their true purpose and faciliate them into walking in it. It goes beyond being a Mentor, or an example, it is being a Father to them.

Paul what you said rings so true. I believe our youth also need more spiritual Father Figures in their lives. Especially with so many that don't have physical fathers around.

Pastor Gary, I think we think along the same lines when it comes to development of ministers. Point 2 that I made is the toughest because it is almost physically and mentally impossible to tell when people are maturing spiritually, it requires everyone involved to have spiritual discernment and to be "in tune" with the Holy Spirit so to speak.

The COGOP has some great leaders and some great youth who want to be leaders someday. My vision is to see the smaller, more rural churches become forces in their communities and it be driven by young leadership.

[Pastor Bill]

The bigger issue is that most who are not yet mature, don't see that in themselves, it's a matter of perspective, we see where we are based on where we came from, not where we are going. Those that are ahead of us see where we are compared to where they are (presumably where we are wanting to go).

From that perspective alone, the mature will always see the less mature as not ready, and the less mature will always feel held down. BUT when you build a trusting relationship between the two, mentoring happens, because through that relationship the perspectives merge into a more balanced view seeking to more forward, while recognizing the distance still to be traveled.

The key is building that/those trusting, loving relationship(s).