$10.00 a gallon gas?

[one love]

Thanks Karen, your such a ray of sunshine.


TW

Yeah, I know. You and others see me as a real drag. Everyone seems to want that "feel good, prosperity" stuff. I don't claim to be a prophet, but the prophets didn't have "good" messages either and were hated. I guess it is just human nature when someone points out things that you would rather not think about or have to deal with.

Karen,

You are sadly mistaken if you think that I'm a "feel good, prosperity" type. I'm a realist. I try to live every day as if our Lord would return on that day, but I will not be duped by the rantings of an "End Timer." Yes, I feel good! Why shouldn't I, God has blessed me, and I thank Him for that. I in turn try to bless those around me. As for prosperity, God has provided me with the ability to meet my own needs, and I praise Him for that.

Karen you cannot "scare" someone into salvation. That doesn't work. You show them salvation and then let the Holy Spirit do it's work in them. The Kingdom would be better served if you would lose the "Doom and Gloom" approach, and instead show the love of Christ.


TW

[Karen]

Thanks Karen, your such a ray of sunshine.


TW

Yeah, I know. You and others see me as a real drag. Everyone seems to want that "feel good, prosperity" stuff. I don't claim to be a prophet, but the prophets didn't have "good" messages either and were hated. I guess it is just human nature when someone points out things that you would rather not think about or have to deal with.

Karen,

You are sadly mistaken if you think that I'm a "feel good, prosperity" type. I'm a realist. I try to live every day as if our Lord would return on that day, but I will not be duped by the rantings of an "End Timer." Yes, I feel good! Why shouldn't I, God has blessed me, and I thank Him for that. I in turn try to bless those around me. As for prosperity, God has provided me with the ability to meet my own needs, and I praise Him for that.

Karen you cannot "scare" someone into salvation. That doesn't work. You show them salvation and then let the Holy Spirit do it's work in them. The Kingdom would be better served if you would lose the "Doom and Gloom" approach, and instead show the love of Christ.


TW

I don't believe that I "ranted" anywhere in this topic OR connected it with "end time" prophecy. I am not trying to "scare" anyone into salvation.

As far as showing the "love of christ".........since I have been posting on this board, I have been continually called names, I have been ridiculed, I have been mocked, I have been judged if I even know God or trust in him. The majority of the time I have turned the other cheek or overlooked it and then I was just called a martyer. Show the love of God.......the majority of this board needs a good healty dose of that themselves. God will judge between you and me.

I only posted a news item and made a comment about it. I AM being a "realist" and if you are a "realist" why are you offended?

I am also blessed and God has performed many miracles in not only my life but in those of my family that the doctors just can't explain and that shows in medical records and by multiple tests by different doctors on different machines. I thank him and praise him for all that he has done. But he tells us to watch, to prepare, to be wise. I have done no wrong by doing this.

[one love]

Karen I understand what you are saying and I agree some have treated you a little harsh I do. I have always been interested in world events and politics and such but I have learned through the years to not make it all I talk about, it can sound a little obssesive. Find more to talk about and think in a positive way a little more. I am sure you can not argue when you bombard yourself with all this info it is exciting becuase you can see the coming of the Lord is so near but at the same time it can be a little depressing as well.
So in saying I agree you have been treated a little harsh and If by any means I have done so please forgive me I never, NEVER want to offend or hurt anyone but show them the love of Christ in my life.

With that said I think you should look at this as objectively as I am. I looked at your side and others and you do make statements that seem to presume you have the answers and we better listen. I know you said "im not saying I am a prophet" but your comment still implied as if you were and that can be a little offensive in itself, as if we are all not as close to the Lord as you. This is coming from someone wh has been treated a little harsh and blasted from one thread to another but I took some peoples advice as I am trying to give you, got to know people here and for the majority many here are very loving good christian people. We all have got used to talking in forums that become debative and when others are not used to this they are offended. Gerald has openly slammed me and I have responded to him wrongfully as well but I took the time to get to know him off of the "public eye" and he is a good guy that I feel i have become friends with.
Give people a chance. How is your day going? How has church been? What is the weather like? Talk about other things not just these doom and gloom topics, not saying dont post them but help people get to know you so it does not seem as if you are a prophet that used to be COGOP but now more enlightened and ready to reform everyone. Im sure that is what some thought of me when I came because i am In TCOG and many surely thougth I would be over bearing and push our doctrine down there throat But they learned that I dont do that. Just give people a chance and let others give you a chance. I say this because I dont want you to be hurt but blessed.

May the Lord bless you

[EagerBeaver]

I don't believe that I "ranted" anywhere in this topic OR connected it with "end time" prophecy. I am not trying to "scare" anyone into salvation.

Oh please. All you've done is move your bile from the Doctrine forum out into the General Discussion forum where it gets more exposure.

As far as showing the "love of christ".........since I have been posting on this board, I have been continually called names, I have been ridiculed, I have been mocked, I have been judged if I even know God or trust in him. The majority of the time I have turned the other cheek or overlooked it and then I was just called a martyer. Show the love of God.......the majority of this board needs a good healty dose of that themselves. God will judge between you and me.

Way to throw the "woe is me" card when someone calls you out in love and according to the Word. Karen you have continually posted on here with a self righteous attitude and we have had people on here point that out kindly to you and you still refuse to accept it. Why?

I only posted a news item and made a comment about it. I AM being a "realist" and if you are a "realist" why are you offended?

Not offended, it's just we're all tired of what you have to say regarding prophecies, end times, etc. It does get old.

I am also blessed and God has performed many miracles in not only my life but in those of my family that the doctors just can't explain and that shows in medical records and by multiple tests by different doctors on different machines. I thank him and praise him for all that he has done.

Great! We praise him with you!

But he tells us to watch, to prepare, to be wise. I have done no wrong by doing this.

You're certainly right, he tells us to watch and prepare. But he also says no one knows when he is coming. I also don't think Jesus wanted people to condescendingly try to get others to get on board...he relayed his every message with love and kindness.

You, on the other hand...

[paul]

Thanks Karen, your such a ray of sunshine.


TW

Yeah, I know. You and others see me as a real drag. Everyone seems to want that "feel good, prosperity" stuff. I don't claim to be a prophet, but the prophets didn't have "good" messages either and were hated. I guess it is just human nature when someone points out things that you would rather not think about or have to deal with.

Karen,

You are sadly mistaken if you think that I'm a "feel good, prosperity" type. I'm a realist. I try to live every day as if our Lord would return on that day, but I will not be duped by the rantings of an "End Timer." Yes, I feel good! Why shouldn't I, God has blessed me, and I thank Him for that. I in turn try to bless those around me. As for prosperity, God has provided me with the ability to meet my own needs, and I praise Him for that.

Karen you cannot "scare" someone into salvation. That doesn't work. You show them salvation and then let the Holy Spirit do it's work in them. The Kingdom would be better served if you would lose the "Doom and Gloom" approach, and instead show the love of Christ.


TW

Right TW.....thats my spot ...yoou know, "feel good, prosperity" type.

[TW]

I don't believe that I "ranted" anywhere in this topic OR connected it with "end time" prophecy. I am not trying to "scare" anyone into salvation.

As far as showing the "love of christ".........since I have been posting on this board, I have been continually called names, I have been ridiculed, I have been mocked, I have been judged if I even know God or trust in him. The majority of the time I have turned the other cheek or overlooked it and then I was just called a martyer. Show the love of God.......the majority of this board needs a good healty dose of that themselves. God will judge between you and me.

I only posted a news item and made a comment about it. I AM being a "realist" and if you are a "realist" why are you offended?

I am also blessed and God has performed many miracles in not only my life but in those of my family that the doctors just can't explain and that shows in medical records and by multiple tests by different doctors on different machines. I thank him and praise him for all that he has done. But he tells us to watch, to prepare, to be wise. I have done no wrong by doing this.

Karen you are correct in that up until this point you had not ranted or connected this thread directly to "End Times." I never accused you of ranting, only that you had been deluded by the rantings of an "End Timer," the man that you have projected as your guru, Michael John Rood. That being said, this thread fits very well with the tenor of the body of your total post. You might be well served to go back and review your own posting history, then perhaps you will understand peoples reactions to your post.


TW

[Karen]

Karen I understand what you are saying and I agree some have treated you a little harsh I do.

That is an understatement.

I have always been interested in world events and politics and such but I have learned through the years to not make it all I talk about, it can sound a little obssesive.

I have talked about other things but no one seems to take note that I did.

Find more to talk about and think in a positive way a little more.

I appreciate your time and your attitude in giving this well meaning advice but I was not aware that it was necessary to fit into someones mold in order to be treated in a way that would bring honour to HIS name.

I am sure you can not argue when you bombard yourself with all this info it is exciting becuase you can see the coming of the Lord is so near but at the same time it can be a little depressing as well.

Yes, it is surely both. I am so very eager to be with him and out of this world which is not my home. And I see many who, as the scriptures say, are just going about as in the days of Noah, oblivious and just going on with their daily routines as if it will always continue and nothing will change, that he has delayed his comming. I must be about his work for the time is short. I have to concentrate on the truely important things that are eternal. I don't want to be counted as the slothful servant who hid what he had been given. What he has given must be multiplied. The MOST depressing thing would be to stand by and do nothing. I am sorry that I depress people here. But if people can't bear news headlines of current world events, my god in heaven, what on earth are they going to do when the prophesied events begin to happen just before he returns.

So in saying I agree you have been treated a little harsh and If by any means I have done so please forgive me I never, NEVER want to offend or hurt anyone but show them the love of Christ in my life.

I believe you and I appreciate the spirit that you have.

With that said I think you should look at this as objectively as I am. I looked at your side and others and you do make statements that seem to presume you have the answers and we better listen. I know you said "im not saying I am a prophet" but your comment still implied as if you were and that can be a little offensive in itself, as if we are all not as close to the Lord as you.

It is not always easy to make oneself understood especially when you are not face to face. I can't help how others decide to preceive me and it does not help when they make assumptions and jump to conclusions.

This is coming from someone wh has been treated a little harsh and blasted from one thread to another but I took some peoples advice as I am trying to give you, got to know people here and for the majority many here are very loving good christian people. We all have got used to talking in forums that become debative and when others are not used to this they are offended. Gerald has openly slammed me and I have responded to him wrongfully as well but I took the time to get to know him off of the "public eye" and he is a good guy that I feel i have become friends with.

Give people a chance. How is your day going? How has church been? What is the weather like? Talk about other things not just these doom and gloom topics, not saying dont post them but help people get to know you so it does not seem as if you are a prophet that used to be COGOP but now more enlightened and ready to reform everyone. Im sure that is what some thought of me when I came because i am In TCOG and many surely thougth I would be over bearing and push our doctrine down there throat But they learned that I dont do that.

Just give people a chance and let others give you a chance. I say this because I dont want you to be hurt but blessed.

I departed from the debates and just posted simple news items. There should not have been any controvercy there. The people WILL NOT stop. Even though I say nothing more about those topics, they follow and bring it into everything I say even though it has nothing to do with the current topic. They still harrass, accuse and jeer. They are clueless about the true love of Christ.

Love is patient, love is kind, love is not puffed up, love is not rude. Love covers a multitude of sins. If you have not love you are a sounding brass. You have heard, love your brother, I tell you, love your enemies. Do good to them that persecute you. Bless them that curse you. Turn the other cheek.

When I loved them anyways, blessed them anyways, they just called me a "self-made" martyer and could not see that I was doing my best to behave in a way that my Father in heaven and his son, our High Priest forever would be proud.

He will judge between these and me.

May the Lord bless you

[Full Quiver]

If it hits $10 a gallon I will not buy or drive unless my boss wants to give me a large raise.

[paul]

Back in January, I had a business man share that he wanted to do something for nancy and I on a consistant basis. He gave each of us a gas credit card for our gas, tires etc... I asked if he had a monthly limit, he said their was no limit.

This gift was a tremendous blessing and as the prices continue to go up, it is a complete, total God-sent.

We are treating it just as if it were our own card in being careful not to make extra trips, or abuse the blessing in any manner.

[one love]

Love is patient, love is kind, love is not puffed up, love is not rude. Love covers a multitude of sins. If you have not love you are a sounding brass. You have heard, love your brother, I tell you, love your enemies. Do good to them that persecute you. Bless them that curse you. Turn the other cheek.

HEY I just preached this sunday... Karen I really do understand I dont want you to fit any mold IM sorry. I do realize what you are saying and as a note I dont agree with how some treat you and feel it is wrong. I just wanted to give some advice sorry if it was taken wrong.


I know, as to comment regarding your thread, we were as a buisness spending a $1000 a week on average to get the crews running and it has just went throught the roof. People want to charge more to make up for the gas yet since the market has went so bad other comapnies are actually going lower. It is a winn less battle at the moment and if or should I say when the prices keep arising we are going to be in trouble. I remember when it was 1.75 a gallon people were screaming to open the federal reserve now we would vote anyone in that could get gas to that price, amazing

[Karen]

One Love,
You haven't offended me and there was no need to apologize. I meant that comment in a more general way and not directly at you. It just seems that is what is expected by most.

Paul,
It is wonderful news about your blessing and thank you for sharing that.

Full Quiver,
Thank you for responding kindly and staying on topic.


I recognize what each of you are trying to do and I just want to thank you and let you know that I appreciate it. This goes to you too Mac User and anyone else I may have missed.

Everybody will have a break from me for awhile as "the move" is scheduled to take place the last part of this week and the week-end and then it is going to take some time to get everything straightened out before I will have any time available.

Until then,
May the Lord keep you, may the Lord bless you and make his face to shine upon you and give you peace.
Shalom
Karen

[MacUser]

The first thing this tells me is that I'm going to get the old vw beetle extremely road worthy!

That is a nice looking car.

Thanks Karen, it's been a project I have worked on and off on for several years. Now that the Gas is going up, up, up.. it's "motivating me" (if nothing else) to finish all the details and tweak the gas mileage next.

God Bless!

[dolfan]

Average American in 2006 spent $5100 per year on oil for gas, home heat and electricity. The government is content to maintain the status quo in the face of record oil company profits in the face of irrational pricing. Meanwhile, it is effectively stopping exploration for new oil within the US. Oil is harder to get and more costly, perhaps, than in the past; the government is providing cover for oil companies as they rake it in. In the future, they'll drill here and dole it out in small enough portions to support exorbitant prices.

Average American spends $5267 per year on health care, including insurance premiums. The government wants to take over health care. For all intents and purposes, it already has. HC is overly regulated and the cost of doing business skyrockets every year. Doctors are leaving and new doctors are shrinking in number. Fraud abounds in the market by providers submitting false claims (most often unintentionally but still costly). The resource is disappearing and the government is the reason why; the winners are large insurers and, ultimately, lawmakers moving us toward single payer.

Question: How alike to health insurers are large oil companies? We've arrived at similar places through different routes regarding the cost and use of two of our most needed, essential resources -- oil and health care. Will the government keep the cost of using oil high by regulating exploration and subsidizing the oil companies' unreasonable profit-making through the speculative commodities market as it has kept health care costs high by regulating utilization and driving up the administrative expenses of the business of health care?? How far will this go regarding oil before the government steps in as the caretaker and savior of the day as a sort of "universal oil" company???

The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and the people are going to get stuck no matter who, oil companies or the government, is the biggest chest thumper in the room.

[MacUser]

I don't swallow the big oil concept and Govt conspiracy. It's this green crazy that is doing nothing but driving the prices up at the pump. As far as Govt. have them suspend the 1/2 cost of taxes and watch the price nose dive.

Call your Senator and Congressman and demand heads if they don't deregulate the industry and suspend the gas tax (without paying for it somewhere else - just do without for a change).

Kill the Green and start the Black crude back. Offer tax incentives to companies that are willing to risk finding the oil and simply uncapping some of the already drilled ones. Employ some strong gutsy actors in 24/7 strong PSA that have some - promote traditional USA values... that explain how OIL is the fluid of freedom and that we need it and love it to run our lawnmowers, cars, buses, trains, planes, etc.

Instead of plant a tree day.. have drill a well day in every state day.

Then watch everything boom. Go Black!

[paul]

I don't swallow the big oil concept and Govt conspiracy. It's this green crazy that is doing nothing but driving the prices up at the pump. As far as Govt. have them suspend the 1/2 cost of taxes and watch the price nose dive.

Call your Senator and Congressman and demand heads if they don't deregulate the industry and suspend the gas tax (without paying for it somewhere else - just do without for a change).

Kill the Green and start the Black crude back. Offer tax incentives to companies that are willing to risk finding the oil and simply uncapping some of the already drilled ones. Employ some strong gutsy actors in 24/7 strong PSA that have some - promote traditional USA values... that explain how OIL is the fluid of freedom and that we need it and love it to run our lawnmowers, cars, buses, trains, planes, etc.

Instead of plant a tree day.. have drill a well day in every state day.

Then watch everything boom. Go Black!

Elect "McUser" for president ......