GREAT NEWS! GREAT NEWS!!!!!!

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald, you seem to be in a permanent state of outrage. You are gonna kill yourself with a heart attack or stroke if you don't get a grip.

IF, like I did, YOU had witnessed one of these shysters manipulate an elderly relative in such a way that all the Jennifers and Pauls would be claiming THEY personally witnessed a miracle, perhaps you'd be yelling like Kevin McCarthy too.

[RamboPreacher]

Gerald, you seem to be in a permanent state of outrage. You are gonna kill yourself with a heart attack or stroke if you don't get a grip.

maybe that's what we see because of the intermittency and text-only forum. I doubt (hopefully) that he is "like this" all the time.

But when we come back to a topic and a thread (like this), we only see a particular view of the posters involved.

Except for some minor (in my opinion) line crossing, GC is my view of the Modern day Irenaeus. some times a bit biased, but a needed voice.

(DaJudge - not directed to you, but in general:) I sometimes wonder how much ear tickling people will "accept", and condone. where is their personal line? When close-to-core and even essential Christian/Biblical doctrines are ignored, and even contradicted - I see red flags.

[DaJudge]

Gerald, you seem to be in a permanent state of outrage. You are gonna kill yourself with a heart attack or stroke if you don't get a grip.

maybe that's what we see because of the intermittency and text-only forum. I doubt (hopefully) that he is "like this" all the time.

But when we come back to a topic and a thread (like this), we only see a particular view of the posters involved.

Except for some minor (in my opinion) line crossing, GC is my view of the Modern day Irenaeus. some times a bit biased, but a needed voice.

(DaJudge - not directed to you, but in general:) I sometimes wonder how much ear tickling people will "accept", and condone. where is their personal line? When close-to-core and even essential Christian/Biblical doctrines are ignored, and even contradicted - I see red flags.

I don't disagree with you (or Gerald for that matter) on the Bentleys, Hinns and Copelands of the world. I'm just saying the brother needs to calm down for the sake of his health.

[pastorables]

If Todd Bentley Sees Female Angels, why are you comfortable with that when there are no female angels?

Gerald,

Do you have scripture for "no female angels" or are you making an assumption based upon the silence of scripture regarding the topic?

pa

[THE RAzEr]

i am not comfortable with it. just not going nuts about it because other people are given different reports. i have read some about it.(mostly what you have written) not saying your wrong. but there are others that have a diffrent view.

BUt see "peoples view" is not what truth should be gauged by.

Christian TRUTH must be gauged by SCRIPTURE.

A Christian Ministry MUST be gauged by scripture.

"What is acceptable" in Christianity is NOT a popularity poll.

BENTLEYS words and claims MUST be judged by scripture.

If the Revival with Bentley comes to Louisville, you can make it Great news.. It gives you the chance to take the words you support and put them into practice. You gave us the words in an article which purported that when a Born Again person was at a Branham's meeting "he could do nothing". You keep reminiding us of Bentleys' connection to Branham.

Good news. If he comes to Louisville, let us know what night you are going to take you Born Again presence to Evangel and stop this stuff. Hey, I would drive you over just to see you do it.

Now some might be thinking just because the Article was posted it doesn't mean the poster believes evertything in it. I would normally agree, but not where you are concerned Gerald. There is no one who can agree with any part of one of these ministries you detest, and be given the option of not agreeing with it all. So, I think you should be held to the same standard.

I challenge you. Put up. You know this guy is a decietful charlitan. Is this not correct? You are Born Again. It is your duty, if you are going to continually talk about him, to Go stop it. And yes I want to be there when you do. And yes I'll pay for your gas if he comes to Louisville. That is if he can bo none of his deceitful tricks just because you are there.

Why not a Jude 2 meeting of Born Again belivers meeting in Louisville to watch the silencing of Bentley an his Sub-Angel Band.

The truth folks is what I have written is rediculous. If being Born Again could stop false teachers, they never would have crept in among us unawares in the first place. It is also rediculous to think Gerald that you believe every word of that article.

It is just as rediculous for anyone to try to say someone who finds any thing good going on in any of this swallows all of it whole. I can relate to the words I here when Copeland says "Jesus is Lord". I can relate to it if you even said it , however, I don't believe a bunch of stuff Copeland believes, and frankly a bunch of stuff you believe.

Now if this makes me a WOF er, because Copeland said "Jesus is Lord, and i believe it---- I mean if I have to believe everything he says just because I believe something he said-- Or if Jenifer or anyone else has to believe it all- Are if you can't take Paul at his word that he doesn't believe everthing these men say---------- Go believe everything the witers you choose to get your information from, annnd

Go shut the charlitans down! Good news they're coming to Louisville.

Btw, I wanted to use all caps on the above line, but I have heard it said this is shouting. Shouting I have heard is an out dated method of soul winning! However I have seen a bunch of it in several post. I like to shout, but it does offend some people.

Ray

[Jennifer Smith]

Will COGOP soon be annointing virgins to carrry revival, seeing Dead people, getting down on all fours and braying like mules?????

Talk about painting a picture... Imo, it is wrong to paint the construed and misleading images you portray of those services.

A Florida Newspaper reported Bentley annointed "virgins" to spread revival.

Todd Bentley claims God shows him dead people. His own words can be found to describe the experience.

I SAW him on their telecast get down on all fours and laugh crazily throwing his head back and forth like a braying mule.

YET WHEN I TELL YOU ALL THESE FACTS I am "painting a picture"!

Fair enough, when these facts are verified then they will be considered facts.
BTW, you didn't answer my other questions...!:wink:

[THE RAzEr]

Gerald, you seem to be in a permanent state of outrage. You are gonna kill yourself with a heart attack or stroke if you don't get a grip.

IF, like I did, YOU had witnessed one of these shysters manipulate an elderly relative in such a way that all the Jennifers and Pauls would be claiming THEY personally witnessed a miracle, perhaps you'd be yelling like Kevin McCarthy too.

You do not have one once of proof or even evidence that Jennifer or Paul would not have seen through what this person did. Why do you think you are such a Spiritual giant and they are Spiritual weaklings? You do not know what they would be claiming at all. as a matter of fact all we have is your word that it happened in the first place. What is your proof. it is your word. Yet, you want to question the word of any one , but your self. I will accept your word!

I have not met Jennifer or Paul, but I know what you have stated is a personal attack upon them. It has nothing to do with trying to warn anyone against charlitans. You have already warned. You have already stated you witness a charlitan. Then, you have to continue to attack.

If they had seen what you saw, they may have felt just like you did! However, we now know they would not, because Gerald said so!

Ray

Ray

[Pastor Gary]

I don't disagree with you (or Gerald for that matter) on the Bentleys, Hinns and Copelands of the world. I'm just saying the brother needs to calm down for the sake of his health.

Nor do many of us -- the problem with trying to silence the "Geralds" of the world is that sometimes they are the only ones alerting us that the Emperor has no clothes. I prefer to have a few voices challenging the assumptions of the easily duped masses to the mass guzzling of the kool-aid of deception.

If Gerald is right, we all owe him a debt of thanks for warning us. If he is wrong, he won't slow or stop the real move of God.

[Linda]

I don't disagree with you (or Gerald for that matter) on the Bentleys, Hinns and Copelands of the world. I'm just saying the brother needs to calm down for the sake of his health.

Nor do many of us -- the problem with trying to silence the "Geralds" of the world is that sometimes they are the only ones alerting us that the Emperor has no clothes. I prefer to have a few voices challenging the assumptions of the easily duped masses to the mass guzzling of the kool-aid of deception.

If Gerald is right, we all owe him a debt of thanks for warning us. If he is wrong, he won't slow or stop the real move of God.

Well said PG, this is exactly how I feel. I use to count on my experience with God through the emotionalism I felt. As I started growing and maturing as a Christian, I realized I could not rely on my feelings, but I had to have a solid foundation in God's word. Emotions come and go, but the word stands firm. Healings may be taking place, but we have to be careful how emotionally involved we become in things that feel so good, but after much examination, may not hold up to scripture.

[Steve]

i am saying that people that have been there have painted a different picture of what is going on than you have...

Here is an example of what is going on. Can you honestly say this is of God? I am astounded at how many people are mislead by this fool.

At one point the comedy relief (Jeff) says that "...we're gonna laugh the HELL out of people!" When they get to hell, there won't be any laughing. God help those people.

[dolfan]

Y'know, this question about Gerald's fascination with how people glom on to the Bentleys of the world has come up before. And, (I think he knows I agree with him on merit even if our temperaments about it differ) I think about Jeremiah. Everyone just shucked him off, thought he was a bit nutty, told Jeremiah jokes, etc. And, he was right. So, when I see righteous anger about stuff that's phrased in a way that demands solid biblical accountability, I tend to pay attention to that. I don't have to be Gerald to share his views, and I don't (apologies for speaking for you unsolicited, here Gerald) think he wants anyone else to be. But, he is looking for evidence that there is a certain sanity in the faith that gave him life in the Lord. If that's out of line, Gerald, I am sorry.

[one love]

ok the whole an angel is in front of the pulpit and laughing as if they are on acid is really strange. This states some of the things gerald has said you may have to over look the remixed 2pac song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7BSry5A ... re=related

[Sherry]

i am saying that people that have been there have painted a different picture of what is going on than you have...

Here is an example of what is going on. Can you honestly say this is of God? I am astounded at how many people are mislead by this fool.

At one point the comedy relief (Jeff) says that "...we're gonna laugh the HELL out of people!" When they get to hell, there won't be any laughing. God help those people.

I have seen drunks act better than this guy. And people follow him? It's disgusting and I actually feel sorry for these people who fall for this kind of charade.

[jessea]

Gerald:

I agree with you about the "Bentleys" of the church world. I cannot understand why it is so difficult for people to decide whether this guy is a false teacher or not. Even if he is truly saved, right now he is a false teacher. He should not be listened too.

It seems that many will accept authentic miracles as proof that this is a move of God. Even if people are truly healed, it doesn't make him someone to listen too. Jesus said that many will come "in my name, saying that I am the Christ but do not follow them."

The warnings in scripture about not being deceived was given to the Body of Christ, not the people who never come to know Christ.

This is not about judging whether or not Bentley is saved. Its about judging his doctrine. Right now his doctrine says that he should not be listened too. If he is truly saved, his doctrine will change at some point and then perhaps the message might be worth hearing.

When any one stands and speaks on behalf of God, it is the Body of Christ's responsibility to test the word, no matter what signs and wonders might be occurring.

Warning: God has a history of testing his people with false prophets and signs and wonders.

"If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him"

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald,

Do you have scripture for "no female angels" or are you making an assumption based upon the silence of scripture regarding the topic?

pa

Your question is nonsensical. How can there be a scripture that says there are no female angels.

There are no Female angels mentioned in the Bible.
Partifularly any with names of Germanic Origin like Emma.