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Postby Full Quiver » December 9th, 2008, 4:41 pm

Tim wrote:Rob Blagojevich is the rankest of the rank. I moved from Illinois partly because I was sick and tired of Illinoisans not giving a rip about the corruption of their leaders. When they re-elected Blagojevich and the know-nothing son of a corrupt Chicago politician, I realized that I was paying a corruption tax that Illinoisans supported. My days in that state were numbered.



Yet both Obama and Rahm Emmanuel helped get this crook elected. Who did you vote for again Tim?
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Postby Tim Elston » December 9th, 2008, 6:12 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Yet both Obama and Rahm Emmanuel helped get this crook elected.


Rahm Emmanuel is a partisan hack, through and through. He thinks a qualm is something to hit Republicans with. If Obama helped Blag get elected and knew about his corruption, then I hope he gets buried in the same hole Blag does before he can say Rahm Emmanuel three times fast.

Full Quiver wrote:Who did you vote for again Tim?


I voted for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, both in the Illinois and Alaska primaries and in the general election.
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Postby Tim Elston » December 9th, 2008, 11:50 pm

DaJudge wrote:Even Nancy Pelosi didn't support impeachment of Cheney. Nor did Obama, or any of the other Dem. presidential candidates.


The Dems made the decision not to pursue impeachment for political reasons. Impeachment is merely a House authorization for the Senate to try the impeached defendent. There is good reason to try Dick Cheney for coercing the CIA to forge evidence to make a false case for war to the American people. Even if he is innocent, the evidence is inclupatory, and a trial by the Senate is warranted.

Here is an account of the allegation: A White House Forgery Scandal?

Here is the testimony of Robert Richer that the order came on White House stationary: The Way of the World excerpt. I saw Ron Suskind interviewed about his interview with Richer, and his body language expressed that he was telling the truth. The next day I saw Condi Rice deny Suskind's report, and her body language expressed that she was lying. Richer denied that he said the things on the tape, but I believe he was pressured to deny them. Suskind has the interview on tape, and I am confident that the tapes, when released to posterity, will show that Suskind is telling the truth. I am confident of this because the transcript rings true, because there is independent testimony and evidence that the administration did attempt to coerce the CIA, and because Suskind's body language clearly expressed that he was telling the truth, while Rice's clearly expressed that she was obfuscating.

Here is the Senate Report that corroberates that the President and Vice President made false claims about the nuclear program to win support for the war.

Here is an account of Andrew Johnson's impeachment, which shows both that to impeach is a political decision and that it may be deemed warranted for crimes less severe than the crime Cheney allegedly committed.
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Postby Tim Elston » December 10th, 2008, 12:07 am

MacUser wrote:Dude.. you were hearing cheers from me... until you hit that last line. :wink:


Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney's assistant, was prosecuted by Patrick Fitzgerald, the same attorney who has indicted Governor Blagojevich. Libby was found guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury. Testimony in that trial showed that Cheney had authorized Libby to disclose the identity of a covert CIA agent in order to discredit an intelligence report that ran counter to Cheney's claims that Iraq was actively attempting to purchase Yellowcake from Niger, claims that were contradicted by the intelligence community.

Libby was found guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury in an effort to cover up what? All evidence that I have seen indicates, to cover up his boss's crime of soliciting the forgery of evidence to rally America to war.
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Postby jinjer » December 10th, 2008, 4:50 am

Valerie Plame was not a covert agent when her ID was revealed. I believe and Fitgerald knows that R. Armitage (sp) was the leak. I'm not saying Libby wasn't involved, but he was not the leak.

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Postby DeWayneTN » December 10th, 2008, 9:36 am

How do you vote in two primaries in two different states?
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Postby DeWayneTN » December 10th, 2008, 9:48 am

Wow - it looks like Jesse Jackson, Jr may be implicated in this mess. Thanks, Santa! :D
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Postby jessicacook » December 10th, 2008, 9:52 am

DeWayneTN wrote:Wow - it looks like Jesse Jackson, Jr may be implicated in this mess. Thanks, Santa! :D


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Postby crispfin » December 10th, 2008, 10:01 am

DeWayneTN wrote:Wow - it looks like Jesse Jackson, Jr may be implicated in this mess. Thanks, Santa! :D

I'd heard that too. Jesse Jackson's no saint by any means, but I'd hate for my worst enemy to find out his son was trying to buy political office. And if it's true, it's a shame that Jr had that little respect for this country.

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Postby Tim Elston » December 10th, 2008, 10:07 am

crispfin wrote:And if it's true, it's a shame that Jr had that little respect for this country.


A while after the election I saw Jackson Jr. being interviewed about the possibility of his selection. The glint in his eye and the smile he was trying to hold back when asked what the probability that he would be selected was seemed oddly out of place at the time.
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Postby Tim Elston » December 10th, 2008, 10:10 am

DeWayneTN wrote:How do you vote in two primaries in two different states?


One primary in each state. The Illinois primary was early in the year, and the Alaska primary was months later. In between them I moved from Illinois to Alaska in time to qualify to vote in the Alaska primary.
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Postby DeWayneTN » December 10th, 2008, 10:12 am

Vote early and vote often!
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Postby MacUser » December 10th, 2008, 11:05 am

Tim Elston wrote:Libby was found guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury in an effort to cover up what? All evidence that I have seen indicates, to cover up his boss's crime of soliciting the forgery of evidence to rally America to war.


Caught on a ridiculous process crime when they knew whom the leaker (original ISSUE) was all along and continued to let this go for two years.

Akin to Martha Stewart's crazy conviction that had NOTHING to do what the original issue.

Now that we know it wasn't evidence or any sort.. this should put to rest your conspiracy theories?
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Postby DeWayneTN » December 10th, 2008, 11:14 am

Obama Busted on His 'No Contact' Statement? Oh, I Think So
By Tom Blumer | December 10, 2008 - 13:59

Yes indeed (HT to an e-mailer, who tells me that "this is from KHAQ, a CBS affiliate" [corrected from earlier]; bold is mine):

By Alexis Hunt
Saturday, November 08, 2008 at 9:48 p.m.

Duckworth comments on consideration for Senate

QUINCY, IL -- Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

Obama met with Governor Rod Blagojevich earlier this week to discuss it. Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement. There's already been speculation about his selection...from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Junior to Illinois Department of Veterans' Affairs Director Tammy Duckworth.

Obama, yesterday (a quote that, strangely enough, seems barely present on Google News, and on Google Web):

"I have had no contact with the governor or his office, so I was unaware of what was happening.”
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Postby DaJudge » December 10th, 2008, 1:33 pm

crispfin wrote:
DeWayneTN wrote:Wow - it looks like Jesse Jackson, Jr may be implicated in this mess. Thanks, Santa! :D

I'd heard that too. Jesse Jackson's no saint by any means, but I'd hate for my worst enemy to find out his son was trying to buy political office. And if it's true, it's a shame that Jr had that little respect for this country.


Get real. Do you think the "Reverend" Jackson Sr.'s hands are clean in all this? Who do you think Jesse Jr. was going to get to raise the million dollars he was going to pay of the governor with? Jesse Sr. is a master shake down artist. He KNOWS how to come up with "walkin' around money".

BTW I knew Jessie Jr. was in trouble when the media asked Jesse Sr. about it and he said, "No Comment". When Jesse Jackson has no comment, he's got problems.


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