Should I have kept my mouth shut?

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Re: Should I have kept my mouth shut?

Postby JohnDB » April 14th, 2009, 1:29 pm

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Dr. Ron wrote:one said" we feel that you are too pentecostal"...the other family said " you are not pentecostal enough for us"


All in the same day...sounds like you've found a good balance there!

You can't please everyone, and you really shouldn't try, people need to find a church that fits them and they can grow, if that's not my church, fine, just go somewhere and seek God. This isn't a competition, and there are many out there that you can reach with much less effort than trying to fight to keep someone who is ready to go. Bless them on their way out, and encourage them to keep going for God.


I know a guy who claims that he is a nudist and a Christian...

A group of us reminded him that these two things are directly opposed to each other.

He replied, "I know...so I changed churches."

Somewhere there has to be a core that is adhered to somehow. If the homosexual community is gaining denominations and churchs they can attend and the conservatives are losing ground every day (mostly due to legalistics) and then you have guys out there with mega churches who teach people how to have a good life here on earth...

Here is what I know.

Every normal man that was called by God didn't want the task set before them to be a great leader.

Moses said that he had "unclean" lips...so did Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Peter, and the list can go so much farther. All of them in other words saying, "Isn't there someone better than me for this job? I ain't good enough"

Every time I get "called" to a task I know for a fact that there is somewhere else and anything else I would rather do than the task that I know I have to go and do...and that is how I know it is one of those tasks that God has deliberately set before me...especially if I don't think that I am anywere near good enough to do it. At that point I know I must...I don't have a choice (really I do...but in another way of looking at it I don't).

I know...I don't know anything much...I am just a pew warmer.
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Postby dolfan » April 14th, 2009, 1:42 pm

I'm a nudist Christian for about 15 minutes at a time (in the shower). Hee-hee.
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Since you asked for it...

Postby Pastor Gary » April 14th, 2009, 2:12 pm

dolfan wrote:No, you shouldn't have kept quiet.

In fact, I wish you'd complain about one more problem in the church that I know affects you as deeply but you didn't mention.

People like me.


Well, since you asked for it... Love you man, but here's some hard truth.
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Postby dolfan » April 14th, 2009, 2:19 pm

Alright ... NOW you've covered the bases. :lol:

And, you're right, of course.

And, I'll add on myself "to him who knoweth to good and doeth it not, to him it is sin." Can't deny it, can't run from it. There it is.
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Re: Should I have kept my mouth shut?

Postby Pastor Bill » April 15th, 2009, 4:34 am

JohnDB wrote:
Pastor Bill wrote:
Dr. Ron wrote:one said" we feel that you are too pentecostal"...the other family said " you are not pentecostal enough for us"


All in the same day...sounds like you've found a good balance there!

You can't please everyone, and you really shouldn't try, people need to find a church that fits them and they can grow, if that's not my church, fine, just go somewhere and seek God. This isn't a competition, and there are many out there that you can reach with much less effort than trying to fight to keep someone who is ready to go. Bless them on their way out, and encourage them to keep going for God.


I know a guy who claims that he is a nudist and a Christian...

A group of us reminded him that these two things are directly opposed to each other.

He replied, "I know...so I changed churches."

Somewhere there has to be a core that is adhered to somehow. If the homosexual community is gaining denominations and churchs they can attend and the conservatives are losing ground every day (mostly due to legalistics) and then you have guys out there with mega churches who teach people how to have a good life here on earth...

Here is what I know.

Every normal man that was called by God didn't want the task set before them to be a great leader.

Moses said that he had "unclean" lips...so did Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Peter, and the list can go so much farther. All of them in other words saying, "Isn't there someone better than me for this job? I ain't good enough"

Every time I get "called" to a task I know for a fact that there is somewhere else and anything else I would rather do than the task that I know I have to go and do...and that is how I know it is one of those tasks that God has deliberately set before me...especially if I don't think that I am anywere near good enough to do it. At that point I know I must...I don't have a choice (really I do...but in another way of looking at it I don't).

I know...I don't know anything much...I am just a pew warmer.


Not sure I am following you on this one. All I was saying is if some feel he's too pentecostal, and some feel he's not pentecostal enough, he's probably at a good balance and at neither extreme (which IMHO is always in error)

Are there some that will leave not due to "minor preferences" but due to the fact that they are not willing to turn from sin, yes, and I would say the same thing applies, we can't change to suit them, we have to continue as God has led us, and if they find someone elsewhere who accepts their sin, we aren't going to be able to stop that, we can only stand on the fact that we told them the honest truth when we had the opportunity.
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