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Postby DaJudge » June 2nd, 2009, 4:49 pm

BEAV IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS ABOUT OBAMA'S SELF RIGHTEOUS HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby EagerBeaver » June 2nd, 2009, 7:21 pm

DaJudge I should have said this earlier but I'm definitely aware of Obama's hypocrisy. I think my stance falls right in line with what One Love said earlier.

MU was the first to say taxpayers are mad, so I asked him where the outrage was when his tax money was stupidly spent by a leader he supported. I asked an honest question that necessitates an honest answer, and all I got back was the equivalent of a Dennis Rodman flop, with MU crying saying that I was belittling his viewpoint, yada yada yada.

When you can't give a good answer just play the victim. Gets more people on your side.

No need to yell, either.
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Postby MacUser » June 3rd, 2009, 5:44 am

Sorry Beav. I didn't bite on your false pretenses because they are way off in left field. I think Rambo.. called it Apples/Oranges? Not applicable.

Dajudge understands and nails it exactly.. so does Dolfan. This isn't a gray area or hard to understand.

Go back and read over my first posts again and maybe you will understand why independent thinking taxpayers are upset ( keyword: hypocrisy ). No one here dodged or weaved.. but stayed on point.

I have faith you can catch up ( you typically do ) if you concentrate on topic. :wink:
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Postby PastorP » June 3rd, 2009, 6:06 am

MacUser wrote:Sorry Beav. I didn't bite on your false pretenses because they are way off in left field. I think Rambo.. called it Apples/Oranges? Not applicable.

Dajudge understands and nails it exactly.. so does Dolfan. This isn't a gray area or hard to understand.

Go back and read over my first posts again and maybe you will understand why independent thinking taxpayers are upset ( keyword: hypocrisy ). No one here dodged or weaved.. but stayed on point.

I have faith you can catch up ( you typically do ) if you concentrate on topic. :wink:


I thought it was interesting, last evening, a news report was on about this so called event. My wife said that the prez was hypocritical in doing this after his talking so strongly against others doing the same thing. She doesn't browse the internet, much less go to J2. She must be intelligent to be so perceptive.
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Postby Brian » June 3rd, 2009, 6:25 am

Ya know beave, there ARE just causes that may in fact cost BILLIONS of dollars but it is COMPLETELY right! Then there are causes that are NOT just, cost BILLIONS of dollars and are flat out WRONG and need to be addressed.

Now I don't have a problem with Obama going to dinner with his wife, even if it did cost a few hundred thousand. Goes with the job of being Commander in Chief. If he neglected his wife and his marriage I am sure the same folks would bring that up as a character flaw.

The difference with alot of the bank and CEO bailouts is that they were the ones asking for money from the government. If I asked for a loan from the bank I may have to tighten my belt in order to pay it back. but I can't get upset if the bank I borrow from takes a pleasure cruise with there top CEO's.
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Postby EagerBeaver » June 3rd, 2009, 7:56 am

Brian wrote:Ya know beave, there ARE just causes that may in fact cost BILLIONS of dollars but it is COMPLETELY right!


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Postby one love » June 3rd, 2009, 11:28 am

You are all missing the point. They asked for bailouts and came in jets, which BTW I think is the better thing to do. These men have crazy schedules and it is absurd for them to wait in airports or drive but they were begging for a bailout.

All that is irrelevant though! If he goes and visits his old home it will cost this much, will we then condemn him for that? He paid for his dinner and show.

I could not stand it when the democrats blasted Bush over every little thing, now I see the republicans doing it. I refuse, ISSUES are what is important to me.

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Postby Full Quiver » June 3rd, 2009, 2:24 pm

Bloomberg should have taken me up on my proposal to have Obama arrested. He would have saved us a few bucks! :D
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Postby bibleguy » June 3rd, 2009, 3:04 pm

DaJudge wrote:
MacUser wrote:In February, Obama scolded corporate executives (while also costing Las Vegas some $130 million) when he said: "You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas, or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime."

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This quote sums up my problem with the trip. Look, obviously presidents take trips and we pay for them. We have to keep him and his family secure. My problem is with Obama's hypocrisy. He demonizes CEOs who fly on a private jet, and yet, he does the exact same thing. And this wasn't a "business trip", it was for fun. If he's going to criticize others for doing it, he needs to be able to take the criticism for doing it himself.


B-I-N-G-O!!!! No more calls please, we have a winner!

There was never outrage before, because the previous presidents weren't strong-arming and condemning CEOs while doing the same thing. If you want to call attention to and decry that kind of behavior, you have exemplify your position.
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Postby Mike Vande » June 4th, 2009, 2:22 pm

one love wrote:that is the cost for him flying out and security. He paid for the show and dinner. This will happen anywhere he goes, we have to pay for his security and transportation, for security reasons. That is surely what it cost for him to go anywhere or even less.


Call it an investment. If it keeps Biden from becoming the President, it's money well-spent.
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you're kidding right Brian?

Postby Full Quiver » June 4th, 2009, 5:28 pm

Now I don't have a problem with Obama going to dinner with his wife, even if it did cost a few hundred thousand. Goes with the job of being Commander in Chief. If he neglected his wife and his marriage I am sure the same folks would bring that up as a character flaw.



I don't care how wealthy anyone is it is never justifiable to spend a few hundred thousand dollars on a dinner date. Please tell me you were kidding! A steak can only get so good and have you not seen the silly Captain D's commercials where they ask the fisherman where the expensive part of the sea is? The man is the President for crying out loud. His spending of thousands of tax payer dollars on a date, which he is obligated to pay not you or I, is the same thing as Kim Jong IL stealing from the North Koreans and feeding himself while his subjects starve.

Obama was among thousands of hungry Americans in NYC and he spends $24,000 on himself and his wife that he did not earn. He gets a salary and he has book deals and the like. Let him pay for his own dates. If he wants the tax payer to buy him dinner then he needs to eat in and let the White House chef cook for them.
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