How much better off since last GA?

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » January 31st, 2008, 12:26 pm

Hey I thought that was my job :twisted:

MrDanger · Postby **MrDanger** » January 31st, 2008, 12:28 pm

EagerBeaver wrote:Hey I thought that was my job

Beav, if you were directing that to me about IYC, then you are confused. Your job is to point out what a colossal waste of time you think it is and and how only the elitists or someone related to an overseer get to go. I always like that post.

dawgs10 · Postby **dawgs10** » January 31st, 2008, 12:28 pm

MrDanger wrote:dawg, your dropping the ball man. You haven't complained about IYC lately. C'mon man, get with it.

alabama is awful.

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » January 31st, 2008, 1:26 pm

MrDanger wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:Hey I thought that was my job

Beav, if you were directing that to me about IYC, then you are confused. Your job is to point out what a colossal waste of time you think it is and and how only the elitists or someone related to an overseer get to go. I always like that post.

Nah, been there done that. J2 has a pretty extensive search feature so you can read it, print it, stick it on your fridge, throw darts at it, etc.

paul · Postby **paul** » January 31st, 2008, 3:13 pm

DeWayneTN wrote:Seriously, at some point, Paul, you have to say "God Bless Them" instead of just hurling catty comments every chance you get.

I Bless them.....But I don't know if they will receive it because I did not stay through the hard times :lol:

MrDanger · Postby **MrDanger** » January 31st, 2008, 3:35 pm

DaJudge wrote:Touchy much, Dr. Ron?

It was a joke! Humor!

Yeah, DaJudge, I am scared to ever leave COGOP. Apparently it turns you into grumpy old men.

JUST KIDDING.....Dr. Ron, your not grumpy, old maybe (according to mom), but not grumpy.

DeWayneTN · Postby **DeWayneTN** » January 31st, 2008, 4:02 pm

I'm not talking about in the small context of this board but in reference to the COGOP in general. I understand your reasoning for leaving and I rejoice with you in that God has accomplished through your ministry over the years. I pray the best for you, because I know you're doing kingdom work, and I unquestionably believe your heart and motives are pure.

I just wish you could extend that same courtesy this way, not viewing those of us in the COGOP as what you perceive us to be, but praying in spite of everything for the Holy Spirit to rain down mightily in our lives. Lord, guide us all.

paul · Postby **paul** » January 31st, 2008, 4:11 pm

DeWayneTN wrote:I'm not talking about in the small context of this board but in reference to the COGOP in general. I understand your reasoning for leaving and I rejoice with you in that God has accomplished through your ministry over the years. I pray the best for you, because I know you're doing kingdom work, and I unquestionably believe your heart and motives are pure.

I just wish you could extend that same courtesy this way, not viewing those of us in the COGOP as what you perceive us to be, but praying in spite of everything for the Holy Spirit to rain down mightily in our lives. Lord, guide us all.

DewayneTn,

I assume this is in reference to me. so as not to cause any futher confusion on my feeling I will pm you

MrDanger · Postby **MrDanger** » January 31st, 2008, 4:32 pm

paul wrote:DewayneTn,

I assume this is in reference to me. so as not to cause any futher confusion on my feeling I will pm you

Well that's no fun. :twisted:

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » January 31st, 2008, 4:38 pm

paul wrote:As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ?

Hey Paul, No offense and this is not an attack. I'm just curious about your statement here. What doctrine are you talking about? Our doctrine lines up with every other pentecostal denomination, organization, or association I know and many independents. So what are you referring too? All of the crazy stuff left with the last several splits.

All the flag runners are in TCOG now. :shock:

one love · Postby **one love** » January 31st, 2008, 4:49 pm

PastorDaniel wrote:
paul wrote:As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ?

Hey Paul, No offense and this is not an attack. I'm just curious about your statement here. What doctrine are you talking about? Our doctrine lines up with every other pentecostal denomination, organization, or association I know and many independents. So what are you referring too? All of the crazy stuff left with the last several splits.

All the flag runners are in TCOG now.

can help but to laugh that was good.

Paul about what year did you leave? If you dont mind me asking.

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » January 31st, 2008, 4:54 pm

Glad you took that in the joking spirit that it was meant brother. God Bless.

paul · Postby **paul** » January 31st, 2008, 4:55 pm

PastorDaniel wrote:
paul wrote:As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ?

Hey Paul, No offense and this is not an attack. I'm just curious about your statement here. What doctrine are you talking about? Our doctrine lines up with every other pentecostal denomination, organization, or association I know and many independents. So what are you referring too? All of the crazy stuff left with the last several splits.

All the flag runners are in TCOG now.

I will use a better word. Polity would fit better. Simply meaning...please no one take this wrong. [-o<

In many of the organizational church schools that we encounter are set up more to teach the denom polity practices and sprinkled with bible doctrine. That was my reference to my old BTI days. It was designed IMHO to indoctrinate me more into the organizational methods, polity, and operation and a little Biblical History and the 29 teachings. And in doing so make us better minister. My wife and I both graduated and we had some classmates who went far in the cogop. A Varlack and some who did not.( by the way I still have all three term books on my shelf. )

when I encounter the JW or MOrmons overseas. You realize quickly that they are their to Mormonize that country...thus my reference to Planting the flag. Reaching an area for the organization rather than Christ.

Sometimes organizations will come in and offer Pastors support if they will change the name over their door, change their doctrinal stance. And allow their views to be taught. that was my reference. So if it was taken wrong I am sorry. One group in particular has offered several of our pastors in the Philippines support if they would not use musical instruments in the church and change the name.

The doctrinal beliefs of our organization does not differ from cogops in general. Our polity and financial structure does.

I hope this clears up any misunderstandings :?:

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » January 31st, 2008, 4:58 pm

Thanks for the clarification Paul. I'm glad we could correspond with no one getting mad. One Love even laughed at my flag running comment and he's TCOG. :lol:

scooter · Postby **scooter** » January 31st, 2008, 5:10 pm

PastorDaniel wrote:Thanks for the clarification Paul. I'm glad we could correspond with no one getting mad. One Love even laughed at my flag running comment and he's TCOG.

Response: Next thing you know he'll be running through here with a stolen church flag! :lol:

WELL GLORY!!!

Jude 2