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Postby teach » November 12th, 2007, 9:11 am

The notion of private school has come up and I was just wondering what you guys thought of this


If we were to take all of our Christian kids out of public school, then what kids will witness to the kids who are in public school. I'm probably not wording this right, but I'm hoping you guys will understand what I am saying.

I guess I am thinking along the lines of how Jesus ate with the sinners...

If you get what I am saying, tell me what you think of this...

I'm not saying this is what I think, I just thought it would be an interesting discussion.

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Postby MacUser » November 12th, 2007, 9:22 am

Would you prepare your Church kids to go into a foreign mission field? Would they be wise enough to do spiritual battle?

Why would we offer up the most young and innocent among us to the wolves when stats show that the Salt and Light method related to kids rarely ever works.. but what actually happens is that they are indoctrinated instead in reverse and we lose them.

Jesus was prepared for what he was up against. He wasn't in a student subjective position.. he was the teacher.
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Postby Tracy » November 12th, 2007, 9:22 am

I see your point, but there is no biblical precedent for children-missionaries in the Bible. I do not think children should be sent out as missionaries until they have been well-grounded in their faith and taught rigorously to articulate and defend what they believe.

As it is, children are sent into pagan institutions before they are grounded and have the maturity to resist the humanism and paganism of our schools and culture. So what we would expect to happen is happening: instead of influencing, they are being influenced, which is why upwards of 85% of our youth are leaving church after highschool.

Certainly there are some exceptions, but they are truly the exception and not the rule. Sending children as missionaries into these institutions is dangerous, and it is not working.

Consider this: would Abraham ever have considered sending Isaac into the pagan culture around him to be educated for 40 hours a week? Definitely not. But that is essentially what happens when children from Christian homes are sent to state schools for 12 years. It breaks my heart.

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Postby DeWayneTN » November 12th, 2007, 9:23 am

I get what you're saying. I agree that there needs to be Christians witnessing in public schools so I don't support a massive walkout. I was in public school my entire 14.5 years of primary edukation. :wink:

At the same time, if a district or local administration is overly hostile to the rights of Christian students, intent on secular indoctrination or if the student is in a particularly dangerous situation, I don't blame parents for pulling the kids out.
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Postby Shellie » November 12th, 2007, 9:26 am

DeWayne wrote:

I was in public school my entire 14 years of primary edukation.


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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 12th, 2007, 9:30 am

I have my only begotten in a Christian school. The cost is prohibitive but I am getting it done. It takes quite a bit of focus and sacrifice.

The problem is that children are impressionable and want to be accepted.

Very few have the metal to stand out and go against the flow.

I will not throw my Cat into a pen of rabid dogs, why should I do the same thing with my child?

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Postby Pastor Gary » November 12th, 2007, 9:31 am

Tracy wrote:I see your point, but there is no biblical precedent for children-missionaries in the Bible. I do not think children should be sent out as missionaries until they have been well-grounded in their faith and taught rigorously to articulate and defend what they believe.


So, Tracy, I can see both sides of this argument, but since we home schooled our own two, and they are doing quite well, you know to which side I lean! :lol:

Our son and daughter have been quite popular and invited a LOT of kids from work, from college and the community to church, and they have stuck with us.

Maybe the solution is to pull Christian kids out of public/government schools and then flood the teaching profession with plugged-in believers. :shock:
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Re: Kids or teachers

Postby Tracy » November 12th, 2007, 9:44 am

Pastor Gary wrote:Maybe the solution is to pull Christian kids out of public/government schools and then flood the teaching profession with plugged-in believers. :shock:


That would be wonderful!! But we still have to deal with the laws which restrict a God-centered curiculum in the state schools.

In one of my son's assignments for this week he has to write about the central errors of both Buddhism and Hinduism. I commented to Philip, "That is a question you would never see in a public school!"

Another example: my son is studying the literature of Ancient India this week (can you tell we are studying Ancient India right now? lol), and his literature book is a collection of tales attributed to Buddha. It is a book of tales like Aesop's Fables teaching good morals. Because I homeschool, I am able to discuss with him how good morals divorced from Christ takes a person straight to hell. That sort of teaching would be unheard of in a public school.

I love being able to channel every single thing we do through scripture and talk about how it relates to God, His glory, His purposes, His judgments, etc. What a blessing!

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Postby DaJudge » November 12th, 2007, 10:14 am

I'm a public school graduate and, in spite of that fact, I'm still a Christian. I say that, because I was faced with every temptation known to man, and, thanks to the prayer of my parents and grandparents, came through in tact. And that was quite a few years ago. Back then it was just sex and alcohol (as far as I knew). Now heavy drug use is mixed in there too.

No matter the cost, my children will be getting a Christian education.

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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 12th, 2007, 10:53 am

DaJudge wrote: Back then it was just sex and alcohol (as far as I knew). Now heavy drug use is mixed in there too.


In High School I knew who to go to for everything from moonshine to acid.
Fortunately I had a good sense of the dangers behind the allure.

Tales of kids sexual perversion left me in shock.

This was a quarter century ago. I don't thnk the situation has improved.

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Postby Paully_44 » November 12th, 2007, 11:13 am

Pastor Gary hit it. Kids (and adults) want to be accepted, no matter the situation. I don't think pulling kids out for the sake of sheltering them from worldly influences will keep them from being diluted by the world. Of course, that is just my $.01 opinion.

My 6 yr old has been coming home from 1st grade this year telling me of a girl in his class who doesnt believe in God and it kind of rocked him a bit thinking someone doesnt believe in God. He talks to her about Sunday School and church stuff and told me this week that she is a Christian now. Is she or isnt she? I am not to judge, I do know that she has been talked to by my son about Jesus alot.

I went to a christian college. I can tell you firsthand, the parties I went to there were just like the parties I attended elsewhere. Nothing was different. (sorry mom, close your ears/eyes)
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Postby Full Quiver » November 12th, 2007, 11:41 am

Kids don't go to school to "witness" they go to learn. What they are learning more often than not in the public arena is awful.
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Postby Paully_44 » November 12th, 2007, 12:48 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Kids don't go to school to "witness" they go to learn.


Agreed.

But they can be a light to those around them. Just like I dont go to work to witness, but I live my life as an example and that is how I am trying to raise my boys.
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Postby sweetpea » November 12th, 2007, 2:22 pm

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Postby Ilovebigcats » November 12th, 2007, 2:40 pm

DaJudge wrote:I'm a public school graduate and, in spite of that fact, I'm still a Christian.


Well, that's one opinion. ;)


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