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Republican & American Changes

Postby Pastorbps » November 5th, 2008, 4:43 am

Is anyone else alarmed by the changing views of America's youth. The press is reporting 2/3 of new voters and 2/3 of young voters, voted Democratic and this is continuing an ongoing shift. Values held by the Baby Boomers are not held by the youth of today. Abortion is a "Has Been" issue to them. Gay marriage is a "I wouldn't do it but if they choose to its okay" issue to them. They are being indoctrinated in polytheism, atheism, and/or agnosticism by Oprah and even the candidates who claim Christianity also see multiple paths to Heaven and espouse a belief in evolution. On top of that, Satan has engineered a "Disinformation & Propaganda" campaign aimed squarely at Bible believing Christians. All of the abortion clinic bombers, every fanatical funeral protesting group, every attacker of a gay man are all placed on the shoulders of the "Right wing, fundamental, evangelical, Christians." If you believe in the sanctity of life or Biblically defined marriage, you are lumped together with these fanatics to discredit the truth.

My question is then this:
Since the Republican party has lost seats in congress for the last 4 years and the presidency this year and with the stampede of young voters to the Democratic Party, will the Republican party shift its platform away from these moral agendas to a more left wing appealing moral platform?

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Re: Republican & American Changes

Postby Paully_44 » November 5th, 2008, 4:49 am

Pastorbps wrote:Is anyone else alarmed by the changing views of America's youth. The press is reporting 2/3 of new voters and 2/3 of young voters, voted Democratic and this is continuing an ongoing shift. Values held by the Baby Boomers are not held by the youth of today. Abortion is a "Has Been" issue to them.


I like the fact that more are getting out to vote or at least more aware of the election process.

As for the Abortion is a "Has Been" issue, personally I feel it is a card that is played during the election season and then put away. No matter who has been in the Oval Office or what party has controlled the house, the issue has not changed. Maybe it is just me, but I certainly dont remember Regan, Bush or Bush bringing it up much after they attained their goal of the White House.
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Postby Pastorbps » November 5th, 2008, 5:00 am

Paully:
So will the Republicans stop placating their Christian constituency because their pretended support is hurting the Republican cause by making them seem out of touch with today's youth?

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Re: Republican & American Changes

Postby paul » November 5th, 2008, 5:09 am

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Is anyone else alarmed by the changing views of America's youth. The press is reporting 2/3 of new voters and 2/3 of young voters, voted Democratic and this is continuing an ongoing shift. Values held by the Baby Boomers are not held by the youth of today. Abortion is a "Has Been" issue to them. Gay marriage is a "I wouldn't do it but if they choose to its okay" issue to them. They are being indoctrinated in polytheism, atheism, and/or agnosticism by Oprah


I wonder if those christians who have sufferd great persecution, who have watched as their families were murdered because of their faith. Those believers who survived Idi Amin in Uganda, Stalin in Russia, Moa in China.
Those of the early church under Nero.

Had they lost their faith in the promises of God because of the political conditions they found themselves under. Many of us might have never heard the gospel.

I am sadded that my man didn't win. I am sadded by the moral condition that I see our country in. But I am more sadded by what appears to be a defeated attitude toward our youth. It inferiates and angers me to the core.

I wonder when the last time most churches called a fast, an all night prayer meeting on behalf of their youth? ( I know PG, mentioned he was personally) but as a church as an organization.
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Re: Republican & American Changes

Postby crispfin » November 5th, 2008, 5:38 am

Pastorbps wrote:My question is then this:
Since the Republican party has lost seats in congress for the last 4 years and the presidency this year and with the stampede of young voters to the Democratic Party, will the Republican party shift its platform away from these moral agendas to a more left wing appealing moral platform?

Are moral issues limited to only who can get a marriage license and whether some day down the road a president will get to appoint a judge to overturn Roe v. Wade and send it back to the states? What about poverty? Darfur? Nuclear proliferation? Labor standards? China? Human rights? These and many more are moral concerns for young people that sadly we didn't hear much of anything from either candidate in this election.

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Postby soulsearcher » November 5th, 2008, 5:44 am

The media controls the minds of youth, just as they controlled this election. What power - to be able to create a whole new America.

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Postby Pastorbps » November 5th, 2008, 6:01 am

I wonder if those christians who have sufferd great persecution, who have watched as their families were murdered because of their faith. Those believers who survived Idi Amin in Uganda, Stalin in Russia, Moa in China.
Those of the early church under Nero.
Had they lost their faith in the promises of God because of the political conditions they found themselves under. Many of us might have never heard the gospel.


I am starting to get a persecution complex. Every time I post my opinion on anything I am rebuked in some form or another. So never mind. Everything is great. Today's youth are great. They are spiritual and they are not abandoning Christian principles. Satan doesn't have a plan and all is well La La La. Tomorrow it will rain gumdrops and we'll all slide down rainbows into pots of gold, swing from candy canes, and we'll skip and play in daisy filled meadows.
The conversation was about the changes in American politics and what that means to the Republican party. I certainly can't argue with prayer but can someone point out a problem without being attacked as having abandoned faith?
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I am sadded that my man didn't win. I am sadded by the moral condition that I see our country in.


Seems like you've lost faith.

But I am more sadded by what appears to be a defeated attitude toward our youth. It inferiates and angers me to the core.


Well go pray and fast and I'm sure your infuriation and anger will get better. In the meantime, I need to go pray before I get angry at self-righteous people who ridicule people who point out dangerous trends.

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Postby Paully_44 » November 5th, 2008, 6:04 am

Pastorbps wrote:Paully:
So will the Republicans stop placating their Christian constituency because their pretended support is hurting the Republican cause by making them seem out of touch with today's youth?



who knows, I'd just like to see them do something more with this issue than bring it up every 4 years.
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Republican and American Changes

Postby Dr. Ron » November 5th, 2008, 7:59 am

I agree with you Paully. It is still the fibre of all that is liberal.
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