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Penny wrote:After reading the other topic, I would like to know
How did the COGOP get to the place at one time to say they are the ONLY bride?
oooh, good one. thanks for the reply. I will probably quote you.scooter wrote:Penny wrote:After reading the other topic, I would like to know
How did the COGOP get to the place at one time to say they are the ONLY bride?
Response: By replacing a spiritual groom with an earthly king.
Pastor Bill wrote:From what I have read of the history, it seems to have crept in, probably starting around the CoG/CoGoP split. The original group that eventually became the CoG and it's many versions gathered to seek God, dissatisfied with the attitudes in the churches they were in (mainly Methodist & Baptist). In many communities Sunday morning was church, and the rest of the week you did what you wanted, that was the culture for many at the time (don't take this as a reflection on the Methodist & Baptist churches, both have had significant revival since that time as well).
This group sought to be the church God described in the Bible, a solid goal, but not an exclusive one...yet.
AJ Tomlinson joined this group, and quickly rose as a leader, (things were less organized prior to his leadership I believe) Not only did AJT continue to be selected each year as GO, but eventually the position was made perminite. They continued in seeking God for many years, till a change in structure placed a group of Elders in authority rather than singling out only the GO. I have heard different accounts of why, but AJ was asked to step down (at least temporarily) during this reorganization, and this caused some problems. A group rejected the leadership of the group of elders and new GO, and continued to follow AJT, this group organized separately, and both claimed to be the Church of God. Things were confusing for a time, and eventually court cases forced a name change (actually more, but I'm trying to keep this somewhat short) the "of Prophecy" was added to distinguish between the two groups, due to the arguments made that they were the "Church of God" that was prophesied about in scripture.
I believe the exclusiveness came as a result of the split, at first it was a goal to be what God wanted in his church, but when human conflicts divided things, the "Us vs. Them" quickly became right vs. wrong, or true church vs. not true church.
Subsequent splits have shown the same results, human disagreements, conflicts and power struggles bring out the worst in both sides, and tend to foster that mentality, and the importance of it seems to grow with every split endured (for both sides) If we hadn't had the splits, I believe the exclusive doctrine would have been long forgotten in the CoGoP, it is rare in the CoG, and it seems the splits of the splits seem to have carried it even further for the groups involved in those.
It's a perfect example of God's vision and goals for our lives being turned around into a selfish piety that can be destructive.
Jennifer Smith wrote:Pastor Bill wrote:From what I have read of the history, it seems to have crept in, probably starting around the CoG/CoGoP split. The original group that eventually became the CoG and it's many versions gathered to seek God, dissatisfied with the attitudes in the churches they were in (mainly Methodist & Baptist). In many communities Sunday morning was church, and the rest of the week you did what you wanted, that was the culture for many at the time (don't take this as a reflection on the Methodist & Baptist churches, both have had significant revival since that time as well).
This group sought to be the church God described in the Bible, a solid goal, but not an exclusive one...yet.
AJ Tomlinson joined this group, and quickly rose as a leader, (things were less organized prior to his leadership I believe) Not only did AJT continue to be selected each year as GO, but eventually the position was made perminite. They continued in seeking God for many years, till a change in structure placed a group of Elders in authority rather than singling out only the GO. I have heard different accounts of why, but AJ was asked to step down (at least temporarily) during this reorganization, and this caused some problems. A group rejected the leadership of the group of elders and new GO, and continued to follow AJT, this group organized separately, and both claimed to be the Church of God. Things were confusing for a time, and eventually court cases forced a name change (actually more, but I'm trying to keep this somewhat short) the "of Prophecy" was added to distinguish between the two groups, due to the arguments made that they were the "Church of God" that was prophesied about in scripture.
I believe the exclusiveness came as a result of the split, at first it was a goal to be what God wanted in his church, but when human conflicts divided things, the "Us vs. Them" quickly became right vs. wrong, or true church vs. not true church.
Subsequent splits have shown the same results, human disagreements, conflicts and power struggles bring out the worst in both sides, and tend to foster that mentality, and the importance of it seems to grow with every split endured (for both sides) If we hadn't had the splits, I believe the exclusive doctrine would have been long forgotten in the CoGoP, it is rare in the CoG, and it seems the splits of the splits seem to have carried it even further for the groups involved in those.
It's a perfect example of God's vision and goals for our lives being turned around into a selfish piety that can be destructive.
Pastor Bill, thank-you for that. I appreciated that broader history and perspective and I agree with what you said. Alsob as we look at what happened in later splits, or our feelings about them, love covers over a multitude of sins or offenses.
To add to what you said, I believe that division or offense is a welcome mat or a breeding ground for the influence of the enemy to come in, and that a religious spirit; a proud, pretentious or stiff-necked spirit influenced the false doctrine of exclusivity.
Penny wrote:After reading the other topic, I would like to know
How did the COGOP get to the place at one time to say they are the ONLY bride?
it's a parable.MacUser wrote:Honestly. I'm sorry.. being a MAN.. I just can't get excited about this bride thing.
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