2008 - Illegal to rip music off YOUR CD?

[MacUser]

Download Uproar: Record Industry Goes After Personal Use
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00693.html

the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step further: In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.

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Zowie.. I smell a fight.

[Pastor Gary]

Download Uproar: Record Industry Goes After Personal Use

Zowie.. I smell a fight.

I smell an absolute rebellion. The laws on these issues were written by people who lack much understanding of emerging technologies and are as ridiculous as if the newspaper industry tried to enforce a regulation that said you can either read the paper-and-ink version or the on-line version, but if you read the on-line version you must destroy the ink-and-paper version.

Absolutely the death-rattles of an industry unable to change with the times.

[stevenson]

The next step would be to stop people from downloading their cd's that they purchased onto their mp3's, ipods, etc... . I don't think the industry can win this one!

[Mole_J]

Just wonder, how did they know he transfered that many songs to his PC?

Is the entertainment industry going t have the right to come check what we have on our desktops and laptops to make sure it is not copyrighted?

[DeWayneTN]

This is an example of rats fighting over food on a sinking ship. I hear more and more critics saying the old model is dead - time for a new one!!

[Dr. Ron]

I can weigh in on this one for sure.
Between the ipods and American Idol, the music industry is getting a really bad situation.
My son has a lot of money in "escrow" because they don't know how to pay royalities on the ipod and that sort of thing. He had 36000 down loads from his myspace site and sold one cd from it. He has had to limit what he puts on the site now,

Because American Idol can put a new face or a new song in front of 25 million people immediately, the song writers who do not work in that show or with those people are getting less opportunity to pitch their new work. The big studios are beginning to look for other ways to break new acts and new songs. It generally costs a record company a mill or so to introduce a new act.....American Idol does it for free and makes millions doing it.

WE ALL HATE THAT SHOW!!!!! Sadly, there is unbelievable talent .....far better than what you hear on there and they can't get a chance because they know the "music business" and won't give Simon a lifetime contract.

It is all a big mess right now with more writers banging their heads against a wall then ever. The laws governing royalties are based on a ten song album.....which no one does any more....soooooooooo

[dolfan]

Well, the argument they're making is already settled law. You can burn your own original CD's to your computer. I'm curious as to how would they know??

The technology once again outpaces the business model. This will keep happening until we hit a limit on memory and processing speeds that puts some significant years of distance between idea and new technology launch. I don't know what form that limit may take, but clearly the format and capacity don't slow anyone down now. That makes tracking impossible and tracking is THE way of keeping an "inventory" on the intellectual property of songs. It is the way people get paid. And, that's the crux of everything. A completely different way of paying the content creators and providers is way overdue. That's at the heart of the writer's strike, too, among other things.

Happy grooving.

[Pastor Bill]

This is probably just a tactic. "shooting for the stars and hoping to get the moon"

They are asking for something WAY beyond the control they can get, hoping the compromise will give them what they feel is right.

[Gerald Creasy]

He had 36000 down loads from his myspace site and sold one cd from it. He has had to limit what he puts on the site now,

How is that figure arrived at? Because from the music Myspace pages I visit songs immediately start playing as soon as you hit the page.

Is THAT counted as one of the 36000 downloads?

If that is true then the number is falsely inflated because you'd be counting someone just surfing by as "downloading".

[Gerald Creasy]

A completely different way of paying the content creators and providers is way overdue.

I did see a band once, called hot by Rolling Stone magazine and had put an appearance in on Austin City Limits, who used a "Tip Jar"

[Dr. Ron]

Gerald.
I can't tell you exactly how he arrived at the figure......I know he has about 9000 friends on his site.......not counting all those who visit there ocassionally. i am sure that his count is accurate ....he makes his living that way and is very up on all his money issues. So, I am sure HE knows what is going on.

dolfan is correct and the writers and producers are getting excited about the fact that old is going down and the new is on it's way. They know that sooner or later they will get to help develop the process whereby they will be properly compensated for their efforts.

[Paully_44]

dolfan is correct and the writers and producers are getting excited about the fact that old is going down and the new is on it's way. They know that sooner or later they will get to help develop the process whereby they will be properly compensated for their efforts.

There is a pretty interesting article in this months WIRED magazine with David Bryne (from the talking heads) giving his perspective on the Record industry.


On a side note, I just bought a USB turntable to I can now "backup" all my vinyls LP's to mp3's. My youngest had never seen a record before, he was quite amazed.

[Pastor Gary]

So -- what would work?

I am all for fair compensation for songwriters/artists. I want them to be rewarded for their talents so they will continue to produce great work.

It does NOT seem, to me, to be fair to the consumer under the RIAA system.

What the consumer wants to buy, and is willing to pay a reasonable fee for, is the ability to enjoy (and re-enjoy) artistic content. If (s)he is sitting at home that might mean enjoying that content on a home television, home entertainment system, desktop computer, etc.

If away at the office or on the road, that same, purchased artistic content should be available on a laptop, iPod (Zune, mp3 player...) or other portable device. The music/entertainment will eventually have to come to the realization that they don't sell media, they sell CONTENT.

[dolfan]

Wow! I'd like to get one of those. I've got a nice little bunch of 45's from the 1960's and 1970's, and some late 70's and early 80's LP's (just a handful) I'd like to preserve, including (guilty pleasure, here) Loverboy's Get Lucky album.

[Pastor Gary]

Wow! I'd like to get one of those.

$99 and it is yours!

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/mp3/90a0/