Bill Clinton has a dream, also

one love · Postby **one love** » January 22nd, 2008, 7:56 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't know the motivation but 100% believe it was staged. He didn't even have time to fall asleep between head bobs. And there is no way he would do that where he was sitting unless it was a set up. He could think of Monica, Gennifer, Paula, etc.... to keep himself awake.

So not real. STAGED!

BTW... He is related to me distantly... before he was adopted but we do share blood. Very little... but he'z muh cuz.

so you have bill in your blood and I have Fred, at least your relative got in the white house :lol:

Alan · Postby **Alan** » January 22nd, 2008, 8:11 am

one love wrote:
Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't know the motivation but 100% believe it was staged. He didn't even have time to fall asleep between head bobs. And there is no way he would do that where he was sitting unless it was a set up. He could think of Monica, Gennifer, Paula, etc.... to keep himself awake.

So not real. STAGED!

BTW... He is related to me distantly... before he was adopted but we do share blood. Very little... but he'z muh cuz.

so you have bill in your blood and I have Fred, at least your relative got in the white house

Well we're just gonna hope my relative doesn't get elected to the white house :lol:

Hillary is something like my 6th cousin.... Don't want to claim that one, but I will claim Elvis who would have been my dad's 6th cousin.

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » January 22nd, 2008, 9:42 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't know the motivation but 100% believe it was staged. He didn't even have time to fall asleep between head bobs. And there is no way he would do that where he was sitting unless it was a set up. He could think of Monica, Gennifer, Paula, etc.... to keep himself awake.

So not real. STAGED!

BTW... He is related to me distantly... before he was adopted but we do share blood. Very little... but he'z muh cuz.

So you are saying that he PRETENDED to be asleep during the speech of the son of Martin Luther King on MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY? Clinton is a lot of things, but he ain't stupid and doing that on purpose would be stupid. It hurts Hillary politically. It doesn't make sense, and thus, your assertion that it was staged makes no sense.

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » January 22nd, 2008, 9:44 am

Alan wrote:
one love wrote:
Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't know the motivation but 100% believe it was staged. He didn't even have time to fall asleep between head bobs. And there is no way he would do that where he was sitting unless it was a set up. He could think of Monica, Gennifer, Paula, etc.... to keep himself awake.

So not real. STAGED!

BTW... He is related to me distantly... before he was adopted but we do share blood. Very little... but he'z muh cuz.

so you have bill in your blood and I have Fred, at least your relative got in the white house

Well we're just gonna hope my relative doesn't get elected to the white house

Hillary is something like my 6th cousin.... Don't want to claim that one, but I will claim Elvis who would have been my dad's 6th cousin.

We're family! :shock:

FQ is related to Elvis too.

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » January 22nd, 2008, 9:45 am

DaJudge wrote:
Ilovebigcats wrote:I don't know the motivation but 100% believe it was staged. He didn't even have time to fall asleep between head bobs. And there is no way he would do that where he was sitting unless it was a set up. He could think of Monica, Gennifer, Paula, etc.... to keep himself awake.

So not real. STAGED!

BTW... He is related to me distantly... before he was adopted but we do share blood. Very little... but he'z muh cuz.

So you are saying that he PRETENDED to be asleep during the speech of the son of Martin Luther King on MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY? Clinton is a lot of things, but he ain't stupid and doing that on purpose would be stupid. It hurts Hillary politically. It doesn't make sense, and thus, your assertion that it was staged makes no sense.

I didn't say it made sense... I can tell that he wasn't really falling asleep that fast. It was exaggerated.

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » January 22nd, 2008, 9:48 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:
I didn't say it made sense... I can tell that he wasn't really falling asleep that fast. It was exaggerated.

Please give me a possible motive for him doing it. Unless he WANTS Hillary to lose, and he may very well, there is no reason for him to fake sleep in that situation.

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:03 am

DeWayneTN wrote:That's funny. Why would you think it's staged, though? It makes him look bad.

They've played all the political cards available and going to play the Health Card next. Poor Bill will need a hospital visit and then Hillary will run and STAND by her man. *swooon*

*insert jingle here*

She can bring home the bacon, Fry Obama up in a pan, and never let Bill forget he's her man! She's a WOMAN.

*end jingle here*

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:03 am

DaJudge wrote:
Ilovebigcats wrote:
I didn't say it made sense... I can tell that he wasn't really falling asleep that fast. It was exaggerated.

Please give me a possible motive for him doing it. Unless he WANTS Hillary to lose, and he may very well, there is no reason for him to fake sleep in that situation.

I SAID I DON'T KNOW!!! IT JUST LOOKS FAKE TO ME!!!! UGHHHHHHHHH!!!

If that was one of my kids, I would tell them to quit faking, I ain't stupid! Go get in the bed since you want everyone to think you are so tired. :evil:

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:08 am

People who are faking things do so for a reason. You kid fakes being sick to keep from having to do chores. A person in a car crash fakes and injury to get money from the insurance company. Everyone has a motivation. I just don't see Clinton's motivation here to fake it.

That leaves me with the simplest answer as to why he did it. He was tired and nodded off. I fell asleep the other day in a movie theater. Sometimes, you're just sleepy.

Postby **Pastor Gary** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:26 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:I SAID I DON'T KNOW!!! IT JUST LOOKS FAKE TO ME!!!! UGHHHHHHHHH!!!

If that was one of my kids, I would tell them to quit faking, I ain't stupid! Go get in the bed since you want everyone to think you are so tired.

Okay, I think there's a communication issue here --- are you suggesting that someone did clever video editing to make it look like Clinton fell asleep, or are you saying Clinton faked like he was dozing? Those are not the same thing, and it is unclear which you mean. :?:

DeWayneTN · Postby **DeWayneTN** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:32 am

Hey, you guys are married, I'm single and yet even I know that when a woman starts proclaiming loud belief in something that doesn't make any sense, you nod your head and go "whatever you say."

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:44 am

I think he was faking it.

Whenever I am that sleepy I can't blink that fast. And putting his hand behind his ear like he can't hear is also fishy. It just seemed like he was trying to get attention. It was deliberate.

Pastor Bill · Postby **Pastor Bill** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:02 am

It was edited, and obviously so, there were three or four transitions where it looks like they cut to different parts of the service, and of course they cut the first part. What I saw was multiple clips of a man doing his best not to fall asleep, but nodding through a good deal of the time.

I've been there and done that, if you are that tired, once you start to nod, you can shift to different positions, prop yourself up to try to look like you are awake (that was tried a few times it looked like) but it's hard to keep yourself awake.

Of course I'm not a former president, sitting on stage at a televised service. He has made himself look bad, and it could reflect poorly on Hillary, or knowing how it goes, it could make it look like she must have had experience keeping him going since he can't even stay awake!

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:15 am

DeWayneTN wrote:Hey, you guys are married, I'm single and yet even I know that when a woman starts proclaiming loud belief in something that doesn't make any sense, you nod your head and go "whatever you say."

You are exactly right Dewayne. God forbid we try to use a little logic to analyze the situation. The woman just KNOWS that he was faking. No evidence or rationale required.

one love · Postby **one love** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:26 am

I felt it was real for all we know he is medicated. But I will say with the edited tapes it looked fake or staged. Was it ? I dont know but I can give a reason why he would do it.

1. He has a HUGE ego, i will be honest im not sure he wants to be the "first lady" oh sorry the first "first man" Clinton is the most powerful politician there is, everything he has ever done has had a motive. Hilary and him in my opinion are a marriage of political convenience.
Maybe Bill does not want her to win........ Not saying this is the case just a thought. The man was prob. tired? I dont know but being as clever politically as he is why would he allow himself the "first black president" fall asleep in that place? It is a wierd situation.

Jude 2