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Postby Full Quiver » January 23rd, 2008, 5:53 am

There, in my mind, is a huge difference between a conservative and a Republican? If not then the polls and the candidates would not show such or pander to such.

What does conservative mean to you?

Is it morality?
Is it Christianity on a political level?
Is it state's rights?
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Postby RamboPreacher » January 23rd, 2008, 5:59 am

many context of meaning, and depends on the discussion. a conservative democrat, but be close to a liberal republican. a conservative COGOP member, on the other hand may be a devout 29-teachings proponent. a conservative Christian, though is not the same necessarily as a conservative COGOP member, and a conservative in the bathroom may only use one paper towel, instead of a few. a conservative in general is "simpler". but where is that line of delineation drawn and defined? good question. :)
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Re: conservative

Postby MacUser » January 23rd, 2008, 7:00 am

Full Quiver wrote:What does conservative mean to you?


Two Words.

Ronald Reagan
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Postby one love » January 23rd, 2008, 7:00 am

The conservative movement ot me means a number of things but mainly

1. More state rights and less federal interference
2. lower taxes
3. low spending
4. reduce government programs
5. take care of the military
6. yes pro-life (but can that really be said to be a conservative move or a republican thought)
7. protecting the contsitution and our ability to have religous freedom.


I will stop there or this will be very long :wink:

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Re: conservative

Postby one love » January 23rd, 2008, 7:01 am

MacUser wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:What does conservative mean to you?


Two Words.

Ronald Reagan


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Postby forestwalker » January 23rd, 2008, 7:34 am

Conservative ideas have been so deformed by the alliance with the libertarians that it's a useless word. I call myself a "traditionalist" these days.
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Postby TW » January 23rd, 2008, 8:01 am

con·ser·va·tive (k?n-sûr'v?-tiv)
adj.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

It really has little to do with being a Christian or not as it is a political viewpoint. With that in mind, it is important to remember that for the greatest part of our 231-year history as a nation our views and values were for the most part shaped by the traditional Judeo-Christian value system. This is why many Christians are identified as “conservatives,” at least politically.



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Postby Gerald Creasy » January 23rd, 2008, 8:08 am

What IS conservative?

Rush is too liberal for me.

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Postby forestwalker » January 23rd, 2008, 8:10 am

TW wrote:con·ser·va·tive (k?n-sûr'v?-tiv)
adj.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

That's what it meant prior to the aforementioned deformation. ;)
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Postby forestwalker » January 23rd, 2008, 8:11 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:Rush is too liberal for me.

Rush is a Republican, not a conservative. ;)
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Postby DeWayneTN » January 23rd, 2008, 8:26 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:What IS conservative?

Rush is too liberal for me.


:-) LOL!
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Postby MacUser » January 23rd, 2008, 9:04 am

Two more words..

The Gipper.

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A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago...He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.

- Ronald Reagan
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Postby Gerald Creasy » January 23rd, 2008, 9:42 am

MacUser wrote:Two more words..

The Gipper.

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A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago...He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.

- Ronald Reagan



To quote Hank Hill "I miss voting for that man."

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Postby one love » January 23rd, 2008, 10:55 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:What IS conservative?

Rush is too liberal for me.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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Postby dolfan » January 23rd, 2008, 11:26 am

Using TW's provided definition, I consider it as being the values and policies and philosophies of our leaders generally prior to 1937, and probably more so prior to 1914 and Woodrow Wilson. When I think conservative, I think "classic liberalism", which Thomas Jefferson embodied.

I'd like to see online (can't find one) old dictionaries so you can compare definitions of words used in, say, the 1920's, 1950's and today with one another. I'll bet you see no small evolution in the definitions of words like "conservative", "fascist", "liberal", "progressive" and so on.
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