Mary and Joseph related?

[DeWayneTN]

They have a new $2 million lottery in Alabama. The winner gets $2 a year for a million years.

[Gerald Creasy]

So I take a trip up north a few years ago. The ex wanted to see Falling Water. the Frank Lloyd Wright building built around a woodland stream.

So redneck me is in Pennsylvania. (Furthest North I EVER plan to go -my skin was crawlin')

The tour guide is telling about the rich family that had the house built and casually mentioned that they were first cousins. No dersion. No smartalecness nothing.

I object to the Alabama jokes and by extension the PREJUDICE that inbreeding is a southern thing.

[Brian]

Joseph and Mary were both from the House of David, and as such were related to some degree. How closely is all speculation. In order to fulfill prophecy Jesus would have to come from the House of David, and since Joseph is not his biological father his linage must be traceable through Mary. As has been stated, marriage between cousins was not uncommon in the Jewish culture at that time, and Gerald has a valid point on genealogy.


TW

I have just been studing this as well and I can see that Jesus is in part the biological son of Mary and therefore has her DNA in His blood, thus tieing Him to the House of David as required by prophecy. But I was talking with someone about how the Jews don't accept that because they say that only the father counts in recognition to the family tree. The mother wouldn't have even been concidered a link to David because they say she wouldn't count. ??? I don't feel that way. DNA is DNA. If Jesus is the son of Mary he has her DNA and no amount of cultural or social seperation can stand in the way of that fact.

As far as them being cousins......I don't think anyone can know for sure. Definately they are family in some compasity, but I'm not sure that would have mattered then like it does today. Heck, isn't it thought by some that Mary was a very young woman, like in her early teens? 13? 14? That wouldn't go over to well today in America.

[DaJudge]

I object to the Alabama jokes and by extension the PREJUDICE that inbreeding is a southern thing.

C'mon Gerald cut me a break. We Georgia boys have to be able to look down on SOMEBODY!

[DaJudge]

I have just been studing this as well and I can see that Jesus is in part the biological son of Mary and therefore has her DNA in His blood, thus tieing Him to the House of David as required by prophecy. But I was talking with someone about how the Jews don't accept that because they say that only the father counts in recognition to the family tree. The mother wouldn't have even been concidered a link to David because they say she wouldn't count. ???

Is that the case? I read somewhere that you are deemed born Jewish base upon you mother's bloodline. For instance, if your mom is Jewish but not your father, then you are born a Jew. If you father is Jewish, but your mother isn't, you aren't born a Jew, and you have to become a Jew by conversion. The reason for that is that who your father is might be in question, but there is no doubt about who your mother is. This being the case, it would seem that the mother's bloodline is very important in Judaism. Maybe Rambo or some of you other guys can educate me if I'm wrong here.

[Brian]

I have just been studing this as well and I can see that Jesus is in part the biological son of Mary and therefore has her DNA in His blood, thus tieing Him to the House of David as required by prophecy. But I was talking with someone about how the Jews don't accept that because they say that only the father counts in recognition to the family tree. The mother wouldn't have even been concidered a link to David because they say she wouldn't count. ???

Is that the case? I read somewhere that you are deemed born Jewish base upon you mother's bloodline. For instance, if your mom is Jewish but not your father, then you are born a Jew. If you father is Jewish, but your mother isn't, you aren't born a Jew, and you have to become a Jew by conversion. The reason for that is that who your father is might be in question, but there is no doubt about who your mother is. This being the case, it would seem that the mother's bloodline is very important in Judaism. Maybe Rambo or some of you other guys can educate me if I'm wrong here.

Hmm, now you have my wheels turning. I guess I have to go study now, thanks alot?

[Brian]

I was able to dig up a little bit here http://www.jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/5_6/genealogy

"From all the genealogies in the Hebrew Scriptures, two observations become apparent. With very rare exceptions, only the male line is traced and only men's names appear. The descendancy of wommen is not given and their names are only mentioned in passing. Since biblically it was the father who determined both national and tribal identity, it was reasoned that only his line was necessary."

There is alot of other interesting things I've ran across, maybe you guys can find some useful stuff there too.

[rjc]

I have just been studing this as well and I can see that Jesus is in part the biological son of Mary and therefore has her DNA in His blood, thus tieing Him to the House of David as required by prophecy. But I was talking with someone about how the Jews don't accept that because they say that only the father counts in recognition to the family tree. The mother wouldn't have even been concidered a link to David because they say she wouldn't count. ???

Is that the case? I read somewhere that you are deemed born Jewish base upon you mother's bloodline. For instance, if your mom is Jewish but not your father, then you are born a Jew. If you father is Jewish, but your mother isn't, you aren't born a Jew, and you have to become a Jew by conversion. The reason for that is that who your father is might be in question, but there is no doubt about who your mother is. This being the case, it would seem that the mother's bloodline is very important in Judaism. Maybe Rambo or some of you other guys can educate me if I'm wrong here.

You are correct DaJudge, my parents had quite a few clients/friends who were Jewish and we learned a great deal about their heritage and beliefs as they also learned about ours.

[Shellie]

We went over this in one of my classes. There was an adoption in Joseph's bloodline. I'll try to look through my notes if I still have them.

[pastorables]

Mississippi should so NOT be in that list!

wendy k

We had a case in our family several years ago where double first cousins married.

pa

[Gerald Creasy]

We had a case in our family several years ago where double first cousins married.

pa

I don't think I'd be repeating that story.

I think a genealogy program would even have trouble with that one.

I am glad to say that in all my years of family research I've found only ONE Creasy that married a Creasy and they were at least 4th cousins (meaning they shared great-great grandfathers)

[DaJudge]

I am glad to say that in all my years of family research I've found only ONE Creasy that married a Creasy and they were at least 4th cousins (meaning they shared great-great grandfathers)

So I guess we'll have to explain your mental illness some other way.

[Gerald Creasy]

So I guess we'll have to explain your mental illness some other way.

Now see, It's statements like that that keep words like "genteel" from ever being applied to me.

Here I am having a rather "genteel" conversation when you come along, hike yer skirts and take a dump.

[DaJudge]

Here I am having a rather "genteel" conversation when you come along, hike yer skirts and take a dump.

It's not a skirt. It called a kilt.

[RamboPreacher]

Yes, they were cousins and related. but don't forget we are all related back through to Noah and to Adam. so, cousin GC, have a great day adn cousin dajudge, conservatism is alive and well! cousin Shellie and cousin Scooter, where can i get me a Harly as a retirement investment? and thanks to cousin PG for allowing all of us cousins to post and have discussions at J2.