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Re: how much better off is your church since last GA?

Postby MrDanger » January 31st, 2008, 11:44 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Well, since no one cared to answer the original question


:shock: Does that mean my answer wasn't adequate? I thought you loved me? How could you reject my original answer to your original question? :lol:
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Re: how much better off is your church since last GA?

Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 11:47 am

MrDanger wrote:
Dr. Ron wrote:Well, since no one cared to answer the original question


:shock: Does that mean my answer wasn't adequate? I thought you loved me? How could you reject my original answer to your original question? :lol:


i think a gave an adequate answer as well :?:

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Re: how much better off is your church since last GA?

Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 11:48 am

MrDanger wrote:
Dr. Ron wrote:Well, since no one cared to answer the original question


:shock: Does that mean my answer wasn't adequate? I thought you loved me? How could you reject my original answer to your original question? :lol:


but i still dont like where the youth conference is going to be mr danger 8)

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Postby paul » January 31st, 2008, 11:49 am

dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o
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Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 11:55 am

paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


i think its good that IO is working overtime to keep up. it means the local level is going foward. (its not the GH anymore.) i pray that my church is not waiting around for the IO to hear from God before we move.

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Re: how much better off is your church since last GA?

Postby MrDanger » January 31st, 2008, 11:57 am

dawgs10 wrote:
MrDanger wrote:
Dr. Ron wrote:Well, since no one cared to answer the original question


:shock: Does that mean my answer wasn't adequate? I thought you loved me? How could you reject my original answer to your original question? :lol:


but i still dont like where the youth conference is going to be mr danger 8)


Never doubted that. :lol:
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Postby DaJudge » January 31st, 2008, 11:59 am

paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


Paul, I hate to be blunt, but I know no other way: You left. I'm sorry you did, and you're welcome to come back. However, you are not a member of COGOP anymore, so save the criticism, okay? If you were someone who had stuck with us through the hard times, I would give your comments more credence.

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Postby paul » January 31st, 2008, 12:11 pm

DaJudge wrote:
paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


Paul, I hate to be blunt, but I know no other way: You left. I'm sorry you did, and you're welcome to come back. However, you are not a member of COGOP anymore, so save the criticism, okay? If you were someone who had stuck with us through the hard times, I would give your comments more credence.


You just comfirmed what I have been saying. There has been surface changes, but no real heart or attitude change. This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well. I will continue to express my concerns and give my imput, until I am asked to leave.

As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ? No thanks. I was raised cogop, my parents, my children...still have a love for it that you would never understand because you do not understand an Apostolic Ministry.

As far as sticking it out during the hard times. Son, you will never kow. I watched so many of my friends lives, marraiges, and ministry crushed by self serving so called leaders over them. You don't even want to go there. Lies, cheating, stealing, abuses that abounded.
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Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 12:20 pm

paul wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


Paul, I hate to be blunt, but I know no other way: You left. I'm sorry you did, and you're welcome to come back. However, you are not a member of COGOP anymore, so save the criticism, okay? If you were someone who had stuck with us through the hard times, I would give your comments more credence.
:wink:

You just comfirmed what I have been saying. There has been surface changes, but no real heart or attitude change. This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well. I will continue to express my concerns and give my imput, until I am asked to leave.

As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ? No thanks. I was raised cogop, my parents, my children...still have a love for it that you would never understand because you do not understand an Apostolic Ministry.


paul speaking for me, i would love to work with you and anyone else that is willing. and ya you could bring all 700 churches with you. thats fine. :wink:

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Postby MrDanger » January 31st, 2008, 12:21 pm

paul wrote: This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well.


How did you get out of his statement that he believes we are the exclusive body of Christ? :roll:

Stretching a bit there to be dramatic aren't you?

"OOoooohh. Someone got tired of almost every post I make being negative about the COGOP so they aren't willing to learn from others and believe like the denomination did back in the day. Ooooooh!" :lol:
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Postby paul » January 31st, 2008, 12:22 pm

dawgs10 wrote:
paul wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


Paul, I hate to be blunt, but I know no other way: You left. I'm sorry you did, and you're welcome to come back. However, you are not a member of COGOP anymore, so save the criticism, okay? If you were someone who had stuck with us through the hard times, I would give your comments more credence.


You just comfirmed what I have been saying. There has been surface changes, but no real heart or attitude change. This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well. I will continue to express my concerns and give my imput, until I am asked to leave.

As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ? No thanks. I was raised cogop, my parents, my children...still have a love for it that you would never understand because you do not understand an Apostolic Ministry.


paul speaking for me, i would love to work with you and anyone else that is willing. and ya you could bring all 700 churches with you. thats fine.


that would be a feather in some S.O. hat, they might ewven get promoted to a General Prespter Office. :lol: :lol:
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Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 12:23 pm

MrDanger wrote:
paul wrote: This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well.


How did you get out of his statement that he believes we are the exclusive body of Christ? :roll:

Stretching a bit there to be dramatic aren't you?

"OOoooohh. Someone got tired of almost every post I make being negative about the COGOP so they aren't willing to learn from others and believe like the denomination did back in the day. Ooooooh!" :lol:


and the location for the youth conference is not good :(

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Postby MrDanger » January 31st, 2008, 12:24 pm

dawg, your dropping the ball man. You haven't complained about IYC lately. C'mon man, get with it.
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Postby DeWayneTN » January 31st, 2008, 12:25 pm

Seriously, at some point, Paul, you have to say "God Bless Them" instead of just hurling catty comments every chance you get.
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Postby dawgs10 » January 31st, 2008, 12:25 pm

paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
paul wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
paul wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:and cogop backed you. hmmm, sounds like maybe its not the same church that paul and ron remember.


talk to others on this board who are in similar situation and the church has not move forward very much. Also what movement has been done is mostly on the local level. Recounting several statements it appears that GH is running fast and furious to try to keep pace with the local church. So yep it does seem like the same-o-same-o


Paul, I hate to be blunt, but I know no other way: You left. I'm sorry you did, and you're welcome to come back. However, you are not a member of COGOP anymore, so save the criticism, okay? If you were someone who had stuck with us through the hard times, I would give your comments more credence.


You just comfirmed what I have been saying. There has been surface changes, but no real heart or attitude change. This attitude that we can learn nothing from anyone other than ourselves only goes to prove the exclusiveness is still alive and well. I will continue to express my concerns and give my imput, until I am asked to leave.

As far as coming back....what would you do with me ? the ministry that God has given me. Would I have to bring all 700 churches I oversee under the COGOP banner ? Would all my schools have to start teaching your doctrine ? No thanks. I was raised cogop, my parents, my children...still have a love for it that you would never understand because you do not understand an Apostolic Ministry.


paul speaking for me, i would love to work with you and anyone else that is willing. and ya you could bring all 700 churches with you. thats fine.


that would be a feather in some S.O. hat, they might ewven get promoted to a General Prespter Office. :lol: :lol:


we could make our own region and i would put the feather in my hat. :shock:


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