be honest

[dolfan]

I have turett's so I am allowed

So do I, seriously, but that's not the reason I'll say one now and then.

[Sherry]

I have turett's so I am allowed

So do I, seriously, but that's not the reason I'll say one now and then.

Well I don't, so some on here may need to cover their ears if I stub my toe!

[TW]

The use of "by-words" is as much cussing (cursing, profanity, etc.) as using the actual words. I say this because the Jesus that I follow teaches that it is the intent of the heart that makes something a sin.

Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

and

Mt 15:16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
Mt 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mt 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mt 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mt 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

So if you think that by using "by-words" you are not sinning think about this:
Your heart caused you to sin, then your denial of that sin caused you to sin again by lying (the denial)about your first sin.

Personally I would rather only have to repent of one sin, not two.


TW

[Full Quiver]

where does the Bible say these words are a sin to say?

[Ilovebigcats]

ok I will admit that I catch myself saying "freaking" and many times think is this just a by word for not using another word. I try to not do that as much but what is looked at in the public eye as curse words i do not do, i feel it would considerablly hurt my testimony

They are not sinful words as in the Bible saying.. Thou Shalt Not Say ****.

But they are, by standards WE have created, offensive words to some.

I don't use them for that reason. But I don't see the words as specifically sinful. I can say "Get away" and do more harm than any cuss word. It is ALL ALL ALL about the heart.

Taking the rea out and putting in uc in freakin' doesn't change your heart or your status with God.

[Ilovebigcats]

If I was to say a curse word it would be sin to me. yet I do try to not say "freaking" because it is so close to the other word.

I bet it wouldn't be. I bet you make yourself feel condemned. Conviction and condemnation are 2 totally different things. Sorry, but you go to the most condemning church I have ever been to in my life. I know from experience. I was both condemning and condemned. Sadness.

[Ilovebigcats]

The use of "by-words" is as much cussing (cursing, profanity, etc.) as using the actual words. I say this because the Jesus that I follow teaches that it is the intent of the heart that makes something a sin.

Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

and

Mt 15:16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
Mt 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mt 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mt 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mt 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

So if you think that by using "by-words" you are not sinning think about this:
Your heart caused you to sin, then your denial of that sin caused you to sin again by lying (the denial)about your first sin.

Personally I would rather only have to repent of one sin, not two.


TW

No, no, no, no, no... it isn't in the WORDS... it is in the inten of the HEART. What's in your heart will come out in your INTENT. That is how people can be deceived. Evil men can put on the best show but eventually the intent of their heart will be revealed. Not necessarily through their speech.

Though we may look it sometimes... I ain't no Baptist in OSAS belief. Sorry. Not flying with me.

[TW]

Cats you missed my point entirely. I fully agree, it is not the words themselves, it is the intent of the heart.

Personally I would rather have to repent for the intent of my heart (during a moment of anger, or such) than have to repent for also lying about it (the denial).


TW

[Brenda]

We could ask our selves WWJS..??

When I first heard the word.."freaking" it sounded to me they made a mistake and meant to say the other word. I thought, WHERE did that word come from? New one to me!
It really did offend me. Cause I thought they meant to say the other word. Which to me is a disgusting word.

The Bible tells us to Go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance.. Heb 6:1
I don't think that we should weigh the difference between saying profane words as oppossed to back biting and living hypocrical lives. God will judge those that tare down. But we should guard our conversation and the words we use.. for they too will come into judgement. For the word says, EVER idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. St. Matt. 12:36


To be like Christ is our aim and our goal. To be His feet, arms, hands. To be his mouth piece. Being that light that He said we are to be. Christ on the inside showing on the outside. As they say, "maybe the only Bible some may ever read."

[Full Quiver]

But you do smoke TW so there are 2 sins present.

[Ilovebigcats]

We could ask our selves WWJS..??

When I first heard the word.."freaking" it sounded to me they made a mistake and meant to say the other word. I thought, WHERE did that word come from? New one to me!
It really did offend me. Cause I thought they meant to say the other word. Which to me is a disgusting word.

I agree. I have said freakin and stinkin. I am NOT AT ALL thinking the f-word when I say those words.

I am usually saying, Get out of the stinkin' kitchen! It is just shorter than saying....

You messy kids better get out of my kitchen making a mess all the time. Lysol is NOT to be sprayed just so you can squirt something! Stay out from under the sink! Stop leaving napkins on the floor. I have to do the dishes and I am tired of tripping over little nosy feet. WHY am I sticking to the floor!? If you are gonna disobey and squirt Lysol then at least hit the sticky spots! No you cannot have dessert! Get off the table Ben!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!

It is MUCH MUCH easier to say GET OUT OF THE STINKIN KITCHEN! LOL! I by no means am thinking the f-word.. I am thinking of all those other words I would LOVE to yell.

[Ilovebigcats]

But you do smoke TW so there are 2 sins present.

You ain't right! Repent you wretched by-word using former TCOG/TCOGNC sinner you!

[TW]

But you do smoke TW so there are 2 sins present.

Only if you believe smoking is a sin instead of just stupidity.


TW

[turbotim]

AMAN

AWOMAN

As for me.. NO, not at all..

As far as by words.. I have on some occasions said.. "freaking." Very rarely. Jessica said that I say shoot sometimes. As in more frequent than freaking.. Oops, I just said freaking twice.. Arrggg.... I have used all my turns for the next six months for that word..

[Full Quiver]

TW, stupidity isn't a sin cause I'm guilty of such all too often and of course I am without.

about smoking, is each pack smoked considered one sin or each cigarette smoke considered one sin?