Anybody read those reports?

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Paul wrote:

It is all based on a shared relationship and joint committment to one another and the vision of reaching out to the lost.

What a unique idea...I guess that would require trust on both sides!

[dawgs10]

so you do admit to not submitting yourself or your church to system that your IO feels lead put in place. (sounds indepdent to me).. better look out paul and ron will saying good things about you.

I don't know what you problem is, but our church pays it's 10% to GHQ and the last time I checked churches are free to designate their harvest partner funds wherever they choose.

When you are able to discuss this issue without resorting to slimy personal attacks and false accusations, I will be glad to respond to you again.

God Bless You- Sam Smith

you have misunderstood what i am saying. the point is if the money is sent to north america it helps north america and if cleveland choose to send money to north america growth campaigns i would support that and send money to that without questioning it. thats all i am saying. (I would not attack you personaly. i dont know you personaly.

[dawgs10]

dawgs10 wrote:

it has everything to do with this thread. the fact is no complains about cleveland unless they do not want to send money. lots of steps have been inplace for a few years to correct what has went wrong in cleveland with money issues. there are many checks and balances in place now. people are using the problems in the past as a reason not to support the IO. thats all it is.

With talk like that you might just get offered a job at IO!

I've got complaints about Cleveland but as long as I am a minister and my church is part of this organization I'll do what I'm ask to do. My disagreements don't stop my church from sending our 10% each month...We sent almost $40,000.00 tithes last year and several thousand dollars for missions, etc.

Do I think I could make better use of that kind of money on a local level? You bet I do...You mentioned a several million dollar building program...We're in one ourselves...We've got 25 acres of land valued at approx. $1 million dollars...By the time we finish our vision we'll be close to $10 million. How much has/will IO help us? $0.00!!

it could have if money was there for north america!!!!

[MrDanger]

it could have if money was there for north america!!!!

So send them a dollar so I can see $.01 of it to help me out?

I don't get that reasoning at all.

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dawgs10 wrote:

it could have if money was there for north america!!!!

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