Charles Barky Fake Christians Video

[forestwalker]

NBA GREAT CHARLES BARKLEY CALLS CONSERVATIVES ‘FAKE CHRISTIANS’
I just lost all the respect I even had for Charles. See this video.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4e0qt ... tians_news

Remember.. this guy supports Obama. They enjoy attacking Christians..

You crack me up Chris. Barkley mouthing off about Christians and telling them what they're supposed to think and be is strangely like your talking about "liberals".

[forestwalker]

PREACH IT!!!

I would, but both sides would stone me.

both? there are only 2 sides?

interesting that it comes down to a pessimistic dichotomy. (which side of the two, you disagree with less) things that make you say hmmmm....

Chris didn't make the rules.

[EagerBeaver]

I really, really, really cannot fathom why some people on here subscribe to the "if you're a Christian, you have to be Republican" theory.

I am in the same boat as Crispfinagin, in the fact that I stand for the moral stances of the republican party but when it comes down to social and economic issues I have to go with who is going to cause the least damage. I completely understand that concept.

Our country is in the toilet economically, we're stuck in a sandbox that has become a quagmire, the world's opinion of America has gone south and we are expected to have a good measure of faith in the Republican party? Heck no.

And about Charles Barkley, the dude gets paid to run his mouth. I think he had a couple of good points but I do know what he said was politically motivated.

That being said, I do think calling out Charles Barkley for stereotyping Christians the way he did, by lumping all liberals together ("the Obama crowd loves taunting Christians") smacks of a double standard.

Politics stink, and we all have to admit the reason the church gets so involved in politics is that the church as a whole has failed to do its job where God called it to originally do its job.

[crispfin]

both? there are only 2 sides?

interesting that it comes down to a pessimistic dichotomy. (which side of the two, you disagree with less) things that make you say hmmmm....

Well it's not my fault there's no theocratic party.

Politics stink, and we all have to admit the reason the church gets so involved in politics is that the church as a whole has failed to do its job where God called it to originally do its job.

Agreed. I hate when church's complain "liberals" are trying to have the government do the church's job. Well isn't that an admission that the church isn't doing it's job?

[MrDanger]

Our country is in the toilet economically,

Can you back that up by numbers? I love hearing people saying that on the news and then the numbers, which are not political, they are what they are, come out and guess what, we are STILL in one of the strongest economies in modern history.

We are in the contraction phase of the business cycle, but that doesn't mean bad economy, it just means things are going normal.

HOWEVER, if we keep cheating the system with lowering interest rates, tax rebates, etc, there will EVENTUALLY be heck to pay economically.

[Poimen]

PLEASE, somebody edit the title of this thread. It's driving me bonkers to read "Barkey" when I know it is supposed to read "Barkley."


I'm totally Monk-ing out over here.

[EagerBeaver]

Our country is in the toilet economically,

Can you back that up by numbers? I love hearing people saying that on the news and then the numbers, which are not political, they are what they are, come out and guess what, we are STILL in one of the strongest economies in modern history.

We are in the contraction phase of the business cycle, but that doesn't mean bad economy, it just means things are going normal.

HOWEVER, if we keep cheating the system with lowering interest rates, tax rebates, etc, there will EVENTUALLY be heck to pay economically.

Here's one simple figure that stands for itself. The devaluing of our American dollar. The dollar isn't going anywhere near as far as it did a few years ago.

In November 2000, the Euro traded at 0.85 to the American dollar. Now the euro is worth $1.45. Our dollar is being devalued on a global scale.

Also you mentioned lowering interest rates. That in itself devalues the dollar, which has a ripple effect...the price of oil stays the same, we end up paying more for gas. Here in Springfield, MO, our gas was $2.69 not five days ago, but today it is up to $2.89. Gas prices go up, our interest rates go down and our dollar has lost some of its elasticity.

Factor in that our money is technically simply a note for legal debts (which is why some retailers are allowed to refuse cash transactions). The only solution for our economy that our politicians ever find is to inject more funny money into the system and watch all our troubles go away for awhile before they come back to bite us in the butt even worse.

All in all, I believe that wages across the board cannot keep up with the current cost of living. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is eroding.

[MrDanger]

The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is eroding.

You are correct about the middle class. According to last years IRS statistics, the middle class is shrinking as people are making more money than ever before. The fact is that middle class is shrinking because they are now being declared "rich" because they are making more money.

You proved my point with what you are saying about the decline of the value of the dollar. We are in a contraction stage. We are STILL in the highest economy we have been in a long time. Once again, if we don't let this play out as it should (traditionally we come out with a stronger economy) we will see it dip into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Also, where are you getting your statistical facts that the poor are getting "poorer"?

[EagerBeaver]

The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is eroding.

You are correct about the middle class. According to last years IRS statistics, the middle class is shrinking as people are making more money than ever before. The fact is that middle class is shrinking because they are now being declared "rich" because they are making more money.

You proved my point with what you are saying about the decline of the value of the dollar. We are in a contraction stage. We are STILL in the highest economy we have been in a long time. Once again, if we don't let this play out as it should (traditionally we come out with a stronger economy) we will see it dip into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Also, where are you getting your statistical facts that the poor are getting "poorer"?

I was trying to show a different viewpoint, maybe my argument was a little flawed (they usually are as I have a tough time relating my actual thoughts and finding the right words for them, haha). I was trying to bring the point across that our dollar value is near historic lows against the Euro and for the first time ever we are lower valued than the Canadian dollar, so maybe we aren't simply in a contraction stage. I hope we are though.

As for the statistical facts that the poor are getting poorer, I'll back it up...I've got to run to town for a bit but I promise I will get back to you.

[Shellie]

Just for you, Poimen, just for you.

[MacUser]

Hey no fair that was on purpose!

I've been extremely busy and unable to post much.. but nobody has ever stated that Republican = Christians. This is such an old theme.

And it's right I don't get to make the rules but I can read them pretty well and not be fooled so easily. I too choose the lesser of two evils as nothing is perfect. Nothing but the saving Grace of Jesus.

But things get real clear when I see a party that glorifies = partial birth/pro-Abortion, Gay Parades + Same Sex Marriages, plus constantly trying to gleefully disrespect Christians (belittle & redefine Christ).. while celebrating praising.. Muslims, Atheists, religion of Global Warming, etc.

Constantly attacking our military men and women, boycotting fallen Heros funerals. Voting to send them and then abandon them when the wind changes directions. etc etc.

The lesser becomes a bit more clear. I wish I could rant more.. but I gotta run.

[RamboPreacher]

okay - I admit it.
I am a fake basketball player.


























but i did stay at a holiday inn express one time!

[Shellie]

Sorry Poimen. I tried. I really did.

[EagerBeaver]

The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is eroding.

You are correct about the middle class. According to last years IRS statistics, the middle class is shrinking as people are making more money than ever before. The fact is that middle class is shrinking because they are now being declared "rich" because they are making more money.

You proved my point with what you are saying about the decline of the value of the dollar. We are in a contraction stage. We are STILL in the highest economy we have been in a long time. Once again, if we don't let this play out as it should (traditionally we come out with a stronger economy) we will see it dip into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Also, where are you getting your statistical facts that the poor are getting "poorer"?

I was trying to show a different viewpoint, maybe my argument was a little flawed (they usually are as I have a tough time relating my actual thoughts and finding the right words for them, haha). I was trying to bring the point across that our dollar value is near historic lows against the Euro and for the first time ever we are lower valued than the Canadian dollar, so maybe we aren't simply in a contraction stage. I hope we are though.

As for the statistical facts that the poor are getting poorer, I'll back it up...I've got to run to town for a bit but I promise I will get back to you.

Couldn't find the document on my computer that I had from an article last year that described the poor getting poorer. I think it was in the NY Times or something.

I could back my claim up using the simple argument that once again our dollar is being devalued and in that aspect worse than others those with not much money to hold onto are in essence holding on to even less.