Goin' Caucusin'!

[DeWayneTN]

Where do you work at, dude? I don't really mind having an incentive to go to work in the morning. I'd certainly lose some of that incentive having to fork even more over for those who have no intentions of earning a living. I do that enough already.

[MrDanger]

"Didn't I see a phrase like that in NewSpeak, in Orwell's 1984?"

I didn't get it from anywhere. I encapsulated it of my own accord for purposes of discussion. The system of insurance posited by the Democrats is capitalist because it relies on private industry rather than a centralized government to administer it. Neither Clinton nor Obama have advocated a centralized government plan based on a single payer. They've both proposed purchasing health insurance from businesses functioning apart from government. That's not only NOT socialism, it's capitalism in the extreme. It's a huge opportunity for insurance companies and any number of small businesses to capitalize on subsidiary administration of the thing. And not only that, it would make running a small business easier because it could possibly free them from the burden of paying for the insurance costs of their employees.

The reason Republicans resist universal healthcare is because it frees the individual from reliance on their jobs for health insurance. Big business and corporate fat-cats use employment benefits as a whip to drive productivity.

If you want parallels to '1984' maybe you should look to Guantanamo torture or Carl Rove's disinformation campaigns.

You can tell you don't live in TN. When Hillarycare was first suggested back in Bill's first term, TN took them up on it and created TNCare. TNCare is based off of Hillary's proposal then and her current proposal. It is a black hole of tax dollars. Even the state democrats have declared it a disaster that they don't know how to fix.

Just imagine, if you get your way, we can nationally have this disaster.

[AllenNope]

It’s probably too late for anyone to take notice but I decided to put my 2 cents in. Danger is correct about TN. TN-Care is a horrific money pit that no one knows how to plug. Whether it is was from Hilary’s socialist plan or just the republican’s greedy big businesses pals (insurance companies), the fact is it does not work.

However those that jump to rule out universal health care and say to the poor just get a job, work hard and buy insurance if you want good health care. I challenge you to walk with me for a week. I work with the poor and health insurance is not attainable for everyone.

Despite what you may think there is a growing population that works very hard and is still unable to afford health care. This population will continue to grow as the middle class continues to decrease and the lower class continues to increase. There is also a growing population of people that are truly unable to work and are unable to get medicines, or treatments that are needed. (WHERE IS THE CHURCH?)

Forced universal health care is not the answer but the free (lol) market is not working either. Yes we may have the best health care in the world, but only if you have the money to buy it.

All in all it will not matter who gets in the white house and whose plan we follow for health care. The fact is the rich will continue to get the best care and the poor will be lucky to get any at all. This is the case now as it will continue to be.