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Postby forestwalker » March 6th, 2008, 2:58 pm

EagerBeaver wrote:The two party system sickens me and is killing America.

Yep. I'd be very, very happy if the House of Reps were turned into a parliamentary body. It would fix a lot of our problems.
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Postby paul » March 6th, 2008, 4:17 pm

forestwalker wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:The two party system sickens me and is killing America.

Yep. I'd be very, very happy if the House of Reps were turned into a parliamentary body. It would fix a lot of our problems.


Not necessarily, you end up with more factions and unable to get anything accomplished. The Philippinbes have been considering a charter change to move towards a Parlliment, I thhink a mistake.
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Postby crispfin » March 7th, 2008, 4:00 am

The two party system is part of America, we are an argumentative culture and we see everything with two sides!

Only two? Have you been in a discussion with a group of people on a controversial topic? There's as many sides as there are bodies.

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Postby one love » March 7th, 2008, 4:13 am

Pastor Gary wrote:
crispfinagin wrote:
The two party system sickens me and is killing America.

That was my motivation behind voting for Nader in 2000 to make the Green party a viable choice. Seems to have not worked out . . . :(


It SELDOM works out. One of the advantages of having a few extra years of life under the belt is learning to temper idealism with a healthy dose of pragmatism. We are not electing a Pope or General Overseer, but a Commander in Chief of our military forces and leader of the Executive Branch of our government. None of them are going to be (pick your favorite) Billy Graham/Mother Teresa/James Dobson -- they are compromised by virtue of being politicians... so we hold our nose and pick one.



Can I get an Amen? Oh sorry Amen :wink:

Mccain is not my choice either I agree but he is not so far out of our base that it is truly voting for hilary or obama. Im telling you if you are in a tax bracket at all, you will regret allowing either of them two winning, we will all suffer for the cause socialism. Im sorry I mean "change"

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Postby one love » March 7th, 2008, 4:18 am

Lets just have 50 parties that all stand for different ideas, get them in congress and watch NOTHING happen. Each of the 50 will fight for more power and will not side with the other.
Maybe we could have castro come here, that would be in the direction hilary loves so much, there will be your change :wink:

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Postby crispfin » March 7th, 2008, 5:20 am

Maybe we could have castro come here, that would be in the direction hilary loves so much, there will be your change

I'm sorry, but do you really see Hillary as a potential brutal dictator executing and imprisoning all dissenters?

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Postby paul » March 7th, 2008, 5:59 am

crispfinagin wrote:
Maybe we could have castro come here, that would be in the direction hilary loves so much, there will be your change

I'm sorry, but do you really see Hillary as a potential brutal dictator executing and imprisoning all dissenters?


I do not believe that Hillery would be another castro. But I do feel that She and Her husband is Amoral, that they would cheat, lie, steal, are completely doubled standarded. They both think that America cannot survive without thejm. They both have a savior complex, which is only self serving. I think that over the next few months you will see the claws come out and her true self will emerge.

This is my unbias humble opinion. Oh, did I tell you I see her as a Jessie Jackson
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Postby rjjunior » March 8th, 2008, 7:34 am

paul wrote:Not necessarily, you end up with more factions and unable to get anything accomplished. The Philippinbes have been considering a charter change to move towards a Parlliment, I thhink a mistake.

A government that can't do anything is often a good thing.

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Postby paul » March 8th, 2008, 8:05 am

rjjunior wrote:
paul wrote:Not necessarily, you end up with more factions and unable to get anything accomplished. The Philippinbes have been considering a charter change to move towards a Parlliment, I thhink a mistake.

A government that can't do anything is often a good thing.


I would not argue with you, but would like to see some examples of your statement.

I government by definition is a form of order. from theocratic to a tribal chief and village elders.

Your statement beg the question if a government that can't do anything is often a good thing, then why have a governemnt at all ?
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