COGOP Missionaries?

ichthus · Postby **ichthus** » April 3rd, 2008, 1:19 pm

Does the COGOP have missionaries that raise their budget in the local churches just like in the COG and AOG? I have never met or read about a COGOP missionary.

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » April 3rd, 2008, 1:47 pm

Me either....I know that we support missions in the form of Harvest Partners....but that goes to an area overseer....at least ours does.

We can choose to send support to anyone or any church overseas through Harvest Partners II also. It is special project oriented.

I do know that most of our overseers and pastors are native to their country.

rough_rider · Postby **rough_rider** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:09 pm

We raise our amount by 10% each year for our harvest partner.

RamboPreacher · Postby **RamboPreacher** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:14 pm

we have been giving monthly for harvest partner since before my time. and since my time, I have made request to have communication with them (Japan), and have received no help from HQ.

Postby **Pastor Gary** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:26 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:we have been giving monthly for harvest partner since before my time. and since my time, I have made request to have communication with them (Japan), and have received no help from HQ.

You must be asking the wrong person. I am at the hospital right now on my BB, and don't have the website handy, but you can email Dan Corbett in Japan at asiarep@aol.com

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:28 pm

rough_rider wrote:We raise our amount by 10% each year for our harvest partner.

In ten years you'd be giving 100% to your HP in that case. :shock:

Postby **Pastor Gary** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:39 pm

EagerBeaver wrote:
rough_rider wrote:We raise our amount by 10% each year for our harvest partner.

In ten years you'd be giving 100% to your HP in that case.

I was never that great at math, but your formula is flawed. If your weight increased by 10% each year... Think about it. And if I might hijack or detour this thread: if you church has no Harvest Partner relationshp, Hawaii is fertile, rich soil for your kingdom investment and we welcome your consideration.

RamboPreacher · Postby **RamboPreacher** » April 3rd, 2008, 2:43 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:we have been giving monthly for harvest partner since before my time. and since my time, I have made request to have communication with them (Japan), and have received no help from HQ.

You must be asking the wrong person. I am at the hospital right now on my BB, and don't have the website handy, but you can email Dan Corbett in Japan at asiarep@aol.com

awesome!
thanks!!!

paul · Postby **paul** » April 3rd, 2008, 3:06 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:we have been giving monthly for harvest partner since before my time. and since my time, I have made request to have communication with them (Japan), and have received no help from HQ.

You must be asking the wrong person. I am at the hospital right now on my BB, and don't have the website handy, but you can email Dan Corbett in Japan at asiarep@aol.com
awesome!
thanks!!!

hey !!!!, you know me, just pretend you don't see the EX infront of the COGOP Missionary :lol:

On a serious note: I don't know the type of communication access that is available for some of your missionaries. For some of our oversees workers it is rather easy to keep communication up. Some times I don't hear from my leaders for a month at a time. Brown outs, government control of the internet. etc..

From my personal perspective. If you have a harvest partner, communication between you and them is vital. It is a means of keeping your people aware of the progress of the work and to see the result of their giving. Also it is a form of accountibility for them.

I just met wqith my pastor for 4 hours today revewing the video footage just brought back from the philippines. He was able to see the church buildings his local church built, see the feeding program and watch one of the bible college graduation. Listen to the interviews of pastors, hear their stories. It keeps him and the church connected.

It goes back to what has been talked about a 1,000 times......Relationships

one love · Postby **one love** » April 3rd, 2008, 3:41 pm

so does the cogop no longer takes a missionary offering every month? or am i misunderstanding?

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » April 3rd, 2008, 3:49 pm

We do but it goes directly to our HP1 support.

The question though is about traditional American missionaries that go from church to church and raise pledges until they have a certain level of support. Then they go on the field for 3 or 4 years....comback and start over.

I don't think the COGOP has ever had anything very similar to that....its mostly always been national ministers I think.

scooter · Postby **scooter** » April 3rd, 2008, 4:06 pm

Our harvest partners are our missionaries.

germanshepherd · Postby **germanshepherd** » April 3rd, 2008, 4:14 pm

[/quote]The question though is about traditional American missionaries that go from church to church and raise pledges until they have a certain level of support. Then they go on the field for 3 or 4 years....comback and start over.

I don't think the COGOP has ever had anything very similar to that[quote]

Regarding whether or not the COGOP has ever had this type of missionary, I can answer that we have had in the past, because me and my family were such missionaries. I cannot answer to the fact for sure if we have any on the field now.

We spent nine years as missionaries in Germany doing basically what you have described. We did not come back after 3 or 4 years however. Instead, we took about 6 weeks each year to visit local churches and reconnect with them and then went back for another year.

These type of missionaries are referred to as "volunteer" missionaries by the COGOP leadership. The term "volunteer" may open a can of worms that I do not feel that this is the forum for. I hope this answers your question in part. I will try to find out if we now have any individuals that are on the field that are not serving under an official appointment.

If you have further questions, feel free to contact me and we can discuss. If anyone is interested in have a missions awareness weekend, I am available to come and promote missions and help churches understand the importance of expanding their borders.

PastorDaniel · Postby **PastorDaniel** » April 3rd, 2008, 4:28 pm

Thank you...that's interesting to know.

As far as volunteer...I think I get what you mean....you do it yourself....is that right?

The COG, AG, and UPC actually have programs that send missionaries from state to state and church to church. While in the UPC we actually had directors at the district, state, and national levels that would arrange services and locations for missionaries to visit.

All of the funds were then handled by the denomination and disbursed monthly.

Does the COGOP handle funds for "volunteer" missionaries? Just curious.

germanshepherd · Postby **germanshepherd** » April 3rd, 2008, 4:56 pm

That is correct, as a volunteer one must do things themselves. As for the money, they can and will handle the money if need be. There are actually two avenues that we received funds through. One was the Harvest Partner Level 2 and the other was through the Helping Hands program. Either way, we received 100% of what was designated for us. We also established our own mission organization through which we could receive funds. We had a secretary stateside that handled that on our behalf.

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