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Postby one love » April 4th, 2008, 9:44 am

INLOVE wrote:
one love wrote:let me get this straight, rolling dice for money, poker games, casinos are ok nothing wrong with it.

:shock:
It is an addictive thing as well just as strong as drug use. To search "gambling" in the bible ans then say "it is not there" it is ok is a false way to look at this. "crack" is not in the bible either.....


I am addicted to coffee. Uh Oh. :shock:


wow has coffee destroyed you or anyone elses life, have you lost everything or anyone you knwo to the use of coffee? Has it costed people there familes???? Are there treatment centers because of the harmful and such addictive manner of caffiene that ones life is controlled by it...

I have svt with my heart all i drank was coffe and dr pepper i simply dropped it. I felt n real effects.

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Postby one love » April 4th, 2008, 9:50 am

let me add i know many who gamble and have been very addicted to the point of stealing from loved ones and losing everything even marriages,

i wil be back later and go into more of a topical discussion :wink:

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Postby RamboPreacher » April 4th, 2008, 10:08 am

please keep in mind that I have not mentioned gambling as a habit, or "problem gambling".

to say that I am copping out because I have a wider definition that you do of what it is to gamble is your cop out. I have never said that it is always right to gamble, my point is that it is NOT always "wrong" to gamble either.

you may ONLY include "games of chance" as gambling, but I do not. and it is not only my opinion. you are also WRONG if you think that I will not call a sin a sin. I absolutely will, if it is Biblically defined, or listed as such.
You dont find many things that are sin anymore with some and therfore some can be saved and live as they always have........
I won't assume that you are in reference to me with that quote, but the post was directed to me, so have to assume that it is at least partially directed to me. and once again, you are incorrect. you may judge someone's relationship with Christ and their salvation on what YOU perceive to be "sinful". And I can be a fruit inspector as well. the only difference that I can see, at least based on your post, adn this quote in teh context of gambling, is that you have a different idea of what gambling is than i do.

I do believe that habitual gambling and "problem" gambling is a sin. but I also have a wider definition of what Gambling is, as I have mentioned. And I DO consider farming, Insurance, etc to be gambling. Again, I just have a different line drawn that you do, in definition.
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Postby free » April 4th, 2008, 10:57 am

You gotta play to win! :wink:

Personally I think that this is a matter of conscience...Just my opinion.
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Postby Full Quiver » April 4th, 2008, 10:59 am

Most everything in life is a gamble. The only concrete thing in my opinion is Jesus but some folks may call that a gamble. :D
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Postby Sherry » April 4th, 2008, 11:05 am

Wow....someone wins a bit of money and it becomes a huge debate! :roll:

I have no comment other I enjoy the casino and I can afford to go. Is it a sin, no.

Btw: Congrat Rahab!! :wink:

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Postby Susie Hamilton » April 4th, 2008, 11:12 am

YellowRose wrote:Wow....someone wins a bit of money and it becomes a huge debate! :roll:

I have no comment other I enjoy the casino and I can afford to go. Is it a sin, no.

Btw: Congrat Rahab!! :wink:


Thanks Rose. I put a little mad money aside for doing whatever I want to do with it. I am not married or have children so I am not hurting anyone. I do ok for myself as far as income goes and I am doing pretty good financially so this is just a little distraction for me. I don't always play, not that I can't afford it, I just play when I feel like it. Not hurting anyone. Don't feel guilty either. :D :D
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Postby Dr. Ron » April 4th, 2008, 11:18 am

Okay, you all need to chill a little. If you think gambling is a sin, remember how the disciple who replaced Judas was chosen.

Voting is not in the bible ....but it is not a sin.....it is stupid but not a sin.

To take your hard earned money and throw it at a game of chance Might be "stupid" but it is not a sin....

It is no more a sin than owning stock ....you gamble every day that the prices will go up. Your 401K (whatever that is) is a gamble....you hope the interest will go up. Your job is a gamble ....you put all your trust in the fact that it won't go to Mexico.

It is no more a sin to put a nickel in a slot machine than it is to spend 100.00 on a ticket to Disney World.

Just know that God's ideas are not our ideas. Now , If you don't want to "gamble" ,,,,you might want to stay inside.
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Postby RamboPreacher » April 4th, 2008, 11:26 am

Rahab wrote:...I just play when I feel like it. Not hurting anyone. Don't feel guilty either. :D :D
Good for you, Rahab! I am glad that you can , and not have it affect your life or your family. and you SHOULDN'T feel guilty. woohoo!!
Dr. Ron wrote:Okay, you all need to chill a little. If you think gambling is a sin, remember how the disciple who replaced Judas was chosen.

Voting is not in the bible ....but it is not a sin.....it is stupid but not a sin.

To take your hard earned money and throw it at a game of chance Might be "stupid" but it is not a sin....

It is no more a sin than owning stock ....you gamble every day that the prices will go up. Your 401K (whatever that is) is a gamble....you hope the interest will go up. Your job is a gamble ....you put all your trust in the fact that it won't go to Mexico.
I already mentioned that, and was told I am not calling sin a sin.
...It is no more a sin to put a nickel in a slot machine than it is to spend 100.00 on a ticket to Disney World.

Just know that God's ideas are not our ideas. Now , If you don't want to "gamble" ,,,,you might want to stay inside.
:D Where is your church again? :)
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Postby crispfin » April 4th, 2008, 11:28 am

wow has coffee destroyed you or anyone elses life, have you lost everything or anyone you knwo to the use of coffee? Has it costed people there familes????

For myself, no. But coffee, specifically the coffee trade, can be pretty devastating to its farmers. Which is why people have called for fair trade certified coffees. Just a side note.
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/fairtrade/coffee/
Not that anyone's interested.

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Postby one love » April 4th, 2008, 12:05 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:
Rahab wrote:...I just play when I feel like it. Not hurting anyone. Don't feel guilty either. :D :D
Good for you, Rahab! I am glad that you can , and not have it affect your life or your family. and you SHOULDN'T feel guilty. woohoo!!
Dr. Ron wrote:Okay, you all need to chill a little. If you think gambling is a sin, remember how the disciple who replaced Judas was chosen.

Voting is not in the bible ....but it is not a sin.....it is stupid but not a sin.

To take your hard earned money and throw it at a game of chance Might be "stupid" but it is not a sin....

It is no more a sin than owning stock ....you gamble every day that the prices will go up. Your 401K (whatever that is) is a gamble....you hope the interest will go up. Your job is a gamble ....you put all your trust in the fact that it won't go to Mexico.
I already mentioned that, and was told I am not calling sin a sin.
...It is no more a sin to put a nickel in a slot machine than it is to spend 100.00 on a ticket to Disney World.

Just know that God's ideas are not our ideas. Now , If you don't want to "gamble" ,,,,you might want to stay inside.
:D Where is your church again? :)


so you do think gambling is not sin :wink:

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Postby RamboPreacher » April 4th, 2008, 12:12 pm

one love wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:
Rahab wrote:...I just play when I feel like it. Not hurting anyone. Don't feel guilty either. :D :D
Good for you, Rahab! I am glad that you can , and not have it affect your life or your family. and you SHOULDN'T feel guilty. woohoo!!
Dr. Ron wrote:Okay, you all need to chill a little. If you think gambling is a sin, remember how the disciple who replaced Judas was chosen.

Voting is not in the bible ....but it is not a sin.....it is stupid but not a sin.

To take your hard earned money and throw it at a game of chance Might be "stupid" but it is not a sin....

It is no more a sin than owning stock ....you gamble every day that the prices will go up. Your 401K (whatever that is) is a gamble....you hope the interest will go up. Your job is a gamble ....you put all your trust in the fact that it won't go to Mexico.
I already mentioned that, and was told I am not calling sin a sin.
...It is no more a sin to put a nickel in a slot machine than it is to spend 100.00 on a ticket to Disney World.

Just know that God's ideas are not our ideas. Now , If you don't want to "gamble" ,,,,you might want to stay inside.
:D Where is your church again? :)


so you do think gambling is not sin :wink:
incorrect statement. here is a more direct statement:
I do NOT believe that all gambling is a sin. However, based on what I perceive your definition of gambling is (based on these few posts); then yes, it probably is. My definition is not the same as yours, remember? :wink:
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Postby Susie Hamilton » April 4th, 2008, 1:36 pm

I just talked with my Mom, a retired COGOP pastor, and told her about winning the money. She congratulated me and was happy for me. :D :D :D
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Postby KBevangelist » April 4th, 2008, 3:24 pm

YellowRose wrote:Wow....someone wins a bit of money and it becomes a huge debate! :roll:

I have no comment other I enjoy the casino and I can afford to go. Is it a sin, no.

Btw: Congrat Rahab!! :wink:
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Postby dbserv » April 4th, 2008, 4:03 pm

Rahab wrote:I just talked with my Mom, a retired COGOP pastor, and told her about winning the money. She congratulated me and was happy for me. :D :D :D




Yeah, but in the eyes of some, any COGOP pastor, retired or not, is a sinner because they did not keep "walking in the light" and leave for one (or other) of the various TCOG (or now ZACOG) branches. :shock:


The "word" is that once they chose to stay, they would allow any type of sin to be in and lead their churches. So ...........................................
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